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keesan
response 125 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 10 16:02 UTC 1998

I presume 'get rid of the old Sun' means to move it to some other place.
other
response 126 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 10 16:45 UTC 1998

as opposed to what?
davel
response 127 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 10 18:15 UTC 1998

We *may* not even need to be 501(c)3 to be exempt.  We should find out whether
Michigan nonprofits are liable for PP taxes.  I've been told they're not ...
keesan
response 128 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 11 02:44 UTC 1998

re 126 as opposed to selling it or giving it away, since we might want a
backup for a while
janc
response 129 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 11 18:53 UTC 1998

I don't think we have any particular interest in "not being noticed".  We'll
pay what taxes we are legally required to pay, and of course we will take any
sensible and legal steps to minimize those taxes.  Selling off obsolete
equipment that we are probably never going to use is a good idea any way you
look at it, taxes or no.
bru
response 130 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 14 13:49 UTC 1998

Are you guys thick in the head or what.

Mnet is a 501(c)3.
It is a non-profit.
The city still says we have to pay taxes on our computer equipment.

Why would Grex be any different?  It would be nice if you were, adn that we
at m-net could use that same arguement to get us out from under our taxes,
but so far the city won't budge.

So what is there to decide?
janc
response 131 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 14 14:22 UTC 1998

Nothing.  If we are legally required to pay taxes, then we have to pay taxes.
Being 501(c)3 has nothing to do with it.  Not being 501(c)3 certainly doesn't
mean we don't have to pay taxes.
rcurl
response 132 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 14 17:22 UTC 1998

I'm surprised that the city has not already approached Grex about this,
since they have a record that Grex is incorporated in the city. My
impression is Grex has never gotten any notice of anything about this -
I know a non-profit that uses my home as its registered address has not
been contacted. So - how about someone in authority in Grex *asking the city
tax office*? Seems easy enough (once one gets up the nerve....).
davel
response 133 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 15 17:13 UTC 1998

Or ask a lawyer who's up on this area.  My source (who said a nonprofit
shouldn't be assessed corporate PP taxes) is *not* such, but has worked in
city administration in several Michigan municipalities, & I'd expect him to
be right on this kind of thing.

But I agree entirely with Jan and Rane.  This is no reason whatsoever for not
going for 501(c)3.  If we owe taxes, we should pay them.  We should get some
kind of *authoritative* answer on whether we owe them.
mta
response 134 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 17 14:26 UTC 1998

It's my understanding that Mark plans to contact the city.  He didn't have
time before he left but plans to on his return.

If Grex owes taxes, it's better to find out before the bill gets too large.
dpc
response 135 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 22 14:34 UTC 1998

M-Net's "personal property" tax bill runs around $150/year.
rcurl
response 136 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 22 15:30 UTC 1998

What is the 'millage'?
other
response 137 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 22 17:12 UTC 1998

that assumes something.  let's try, "by what algorithm is the tax amount
determined?"
albaugh
response 138 of 138: Mark Unseen   May 22 18:40 UTC 1998

B. Publicizing the services offered through Grex. Grex is well-established
and well-known and word- of-mouth advertising ...

Notice the space in word- of-mouth.  Hows' *that* for a nit?!  ;-)
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