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jp2
response 124 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 15:55 UTC 2000

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twinkie
response 125 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 16:18 UTC 2000

re: 123 -- Duh!

birdy
response 126 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 17:05 UTC 2000

Re #124 - for the sake of argument only:  You're on a Michigan BBS.  It 
would be like committing a crime in another state and being tried for 
it there.  I think.  I really don't care, so I don't care if I'm wrong 
either.  =)
void
response 127 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 17:07 UTC 2000

   willard has a long history of ruining, or attempting to ruin, that
which he is either unable to grasp or that which has made him angry.  on
m-net he has been known to destroy conferences he fw'd, post hundreds of
nuisance items in other conferences, and fake his own death.  he
apparently has an emotional age of three.  handle him as you would any
other three-year-old who has a larger vocabulary than most.
willard
response 128 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 18:10 UTC 2000

#127: Good call.
jp2
response 129 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 18:31 UTC 2000

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birdy
response 130 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 19:11 UTC 2000

I didn't say I agreed with it.  =)  I still think this is stupid.

And, as with most of Richard's completely asinine ideas, he bows out 
after the first few responses and leaves us all to argue.  
twinkie
response 131 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 19:14 UTC 2000

I think richard genuinely gets confused when people question his idiocy.

keesan
response 132 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 19:18 UTC 2000

I think Richard was trying to come up with a solution to a problem that manyof
us agree exists, but did not think it all the way through.  Unlike a few other
people who have been posting on grex, he is well intentioned.  If nothing
else, he started an interesting conversation.
mwg
response 133 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 19:21 UTC 2000

On the other hand, travelling outside the US would then be a risky
venture.  Somewhere in one of the on-line legal sites there is a story
about a man who posted pro-Nazi materials on his US-operated web site.
One day whle travalling outside the US, he hit a country with extradition
with Germany, and was arrested, carted off to Germany, and has been
cooling his heels for a while now.  It seems that German law prohibits the
distribution of Nazi materials.  Since Germans can access the Internet, it
is illegal to post Nazi material on the Internet, anywhere, unless you
make it impossible tor Germans to access the material.  I could not find
that specific case in a quick search, but I did find a page of some
relevance: http://www.abanet.org/buslaw/cyber/initiatives/eujuris.html

That page mentions prosecuting a CompuServe manager of some sort.
eeyore
response 134 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 23:27 UTC 2000

get it through your stupid heads...

NOBODY IS SUEING ANYBODY!  Get fucking over it already.  Whoever came up with
the idea should be shot, and the rest of you need to just shut the fuck up
about it.  Get your head out of your fucking asses and start thinking like
adults.  Shit happens.  You either deal with it or ignore it.  I've been (for
the most part) choosing to ignore it, with the major exception of this item.
And really, that's the only thing of the "M-net Invasion" that I've had a part
of.

And guess what: If you are pissed that a bunch of people from M-Net are here,
then you'd better face the reality that it was a bunch of people from M-Net
that started Grex in the first place.
carson
response 135 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 23:35 UTC 2000

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willard
response 136 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 00:12 UTC 2000

135 said...

,C /bbs/coop11 item 198 resp 135 rflg 3 date Sep 11 19:36:27 2000 user
carson,26
60 Carson!
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(easy, Megan... put the chocolate down...)
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krj
response 137 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 00:34 UTC 2000

Won't shooting someone result in more lawsuits?
 
I'm trying out Russ' twit filter scheme.  It's very...  tranquil.
I recommend it.
other
response 138 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 03:36 UTC 2000

Go, Meg, Go!  (Don't forget to breathe... your digital cheeks are getting very
red.)
jmsaul
response 139 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 03:37 UTC 2000

Re #134:  You know, if more Grexers were like you, I might actually hang
          around here occasionally.  I mean that.
eeyore
response 140 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 04:07 UTC 2000

You *really DON'T* want to be around me when I loose my temper.  Ask anybody
that knows me.

And what you actually read in that was a very much pared down version from
what it started as.
scg
response 141 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 07:53 UTC 2000

I don't think anybody who gets taken seriously around here is seriously
suggesting a lawsuit, restraining order, or any other legal measures.  Yes,
a few people are, but nobody in power is going to pay much attention to them
anyway.

With regard to the comments about being able to outlawyer Grex with a "high
level network engineer's salary," I wouldn't be so sure about that.  Even with
a pretty good sallary, a lawyer's time can be pretty expensive.  Grex has,
in the past, been able to get very good legal representation for free, from
lawyers who felt Grex was a good cause and wanted to support it, or that what
Grex was fighting for in the particular case was a good cause.  Grex has had
extremely good legal help both in dealing with its then landlord who kept
turning the power off, and in taking on the State of Michigan over Internet
censorship.  Where Grex is clearly in the right, it doesn't have trouble
getting what legal help it needs.  But Grex has no legal budget of its own,
and in this case suing those using Grex's "free speech forums" to say things
other Grexers find annoying is not very likely to be something any lawyer who
likes Grex's ideals is going to think is worth working on for free, so even
if a majority of the board or a majority of the membership were to decide such
a lawsuit was a good idea (which they won't), it wouldn't happen.
md
response 142 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 11:49 UTC 2000

Hey, just a suggestion.  As long as you're there.
willard
response 143 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 12:13 UTC 2000

#142:  I have an idea.  Why don't you go fuck yourself? 
jp2
response 144 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 14:46 UTC 2000

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md
response 145 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 15:14 UTC 2000

Your hands are trembling, Jamie.
twinkie
response 146 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 15:35 UTC 2000

re: 141 - I was operating more on the assumption that such pro bono lawyers
wouldn't be inclined to assist Grex in suing it's own users.

But I echo jp2's statement. It would probably be easier for the hypothetical
defendants to find free legal representation, in this situation.

jp2
response 147 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 17:29 UTC 2000

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aaron
response 148 of 157: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 20:47 UTC 2000

Thereby disproving the maxim, "No man is an island."
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