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tod
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response 123 of 323:
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Oct 10 19:34 UTC 2000 |
Unless you consider the Shelter and City club where fat adolescents
dress up and play el-depresso the clown.
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jazz
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response 124 of 323:
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Oct 10 19:37 UTC 2000 |
I miss the days - the early eighties to early nineties - when being
a Goth was a significantly different thing; pale skin (regardless of race),
an affection for poetry, romance, and drama, especially with a darker twist,
rail-thin build, and a certain mindset which is hard to describe. CC was
much more entertaining years ago for serious dancing, and is much more
entertaining these days for laughs.
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brighn
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response 125 of 323:
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Oct 10 19:52 UTC 2000 |
speaking of fat adolescents and goths, John, you really should check out your
ex's ex lately... goodyear city ;}
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jazz
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response 126 of 323:
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Oct 10 20:29 UTC 2000 |
Oh yeah, I ran into him at Convocation early last year. I waved to
you too, but I don't think you recognized me, I was there with Anne and
occasionally Sarah.
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ashke
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response 127 of 323:
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Oct 10 20:45 UTC 2000 |
Okay, Jazz, you and I have a few things in common then. I agree, it was a
... interesting adaptation. And what they left out, like the Scull Cowboy,
making the crow a real thing not just part of his mind, cutting out the cat
in the hat scene....those were criminal. But the Gideons? That
was....beautiful. Just prefect. I can forgive them for parts of it. But
the point and horror of the Crow comic was they were on the road together,
the car broke down, and it happened. These guys just did it. For fun. They
didn't write a letter, they didn't just piss them off. And it wasn't devil's
night. It was senseless. If you read the pages and see the artwork, you can
almost feel the pain. I honestly liked the NIN version of Dead Souls...one
of the best guitar riffs in a song, in my humble opinion (I seem to be full
of them today too), and some of the other cure songs and My life with the
thrill kill kult, jesus and mary chain...I thought the soundtrack did a good
job.
Crow 2 however, was nothing more than a copy. If you watch how the bad guys
go down, same damn thing! I mean, iggy pop dies just like T-Bird (the real
leader in the first one, not Top Dollar...HE was a petty drug dealer in the
book) and the fire crow, etc etc etc, and Sara falls in love with the other
crow? Ick.
There is a 3rd crow on the way. It's making headlines because Kristen Dunst,
our beloved Claudia, shows her boobies. Lovely. I think I'll wait for video.
However, I saw a preview for the Grinch last night. I think I'll see it 800
times. I *LOVE* max in the cartoon <grins>
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jep
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response 128 of 323:
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Oct 10 21:23 UTC 2000 |
I finally got around to watching "Saving Private Ryan" last night. I
haven't quite finished it yet, but have a pretty good sense of it, I
think. It is clearly the bloodiest, goriest movie I've seen. The
opening scene, in particular, features very graphic images of men being
chopped apart by machine guns and dying on the beach. It shows what
seems to be a very realistic view of intense combat -- and if that's so,
I am glad I spent my time in the service in the National Guard, not in
combat. The plot holds together pretty well up to the point where they
actually find Private Ryan, then things seem to be getting a little
unbelievable. Not many movies manage that good of a plot.
There's no way I'm letting my 9 year old watch this one; not until he's
in at least high school.
It's hard to say I've enjoyed this movie, but it's interesting and
well-made.
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tod
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response 129 of 323:
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Oct 11 00:48 UTC 2000 |
It's definately not a kid's movie. I think most folks that have seen
combat would relate most with the Corporal that wanted to bring
his typewriter. Most folks hate killing, even in combat.
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jerryr
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response 130 of 323:
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Oct 11 12:32 UTC 2000 |
hey, you bastard, that sounds almost like heresey. how dare you describe
killing people that way! by, gawd, they'll have to pry my gun from my cold
dead hands before i admit that taking a life is anything heavier than swatting
maggots off a dead cat. straigthen up, boy!
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mooncat
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response 131 of 323:
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Oct 11 13:33 UTC 2000 |
(John- that was Jenn, not Sarah. <grins>)
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mooncat
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response 132 of 323:
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Oct 11 13:34 UTC 2000 |
Oh, and not ever having read the comic of 'The Crow' before seeing the
movie- I liked it quite a bit. Ever notice how movies alter things so
that they make sense to the audience? <grins> Though, I still bitch
about Emma Thompson playing Elinor in 'Sense and Sensibility.'
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tod
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response 133 of 323:
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Oct 11 14:06 UTC 2000 |
Emma Thompson annoys me in a pretentious A2 sort of way.
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jazz
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response 134 of 323:
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Oct 11 15:19 UTC 2000 |
Oh yeah, it was Jen, and not Sarah. I was confused yesterday.
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mwg
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response 135 of 323:
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Oct 11 17:10 UTC 2000 |
In blast from the past mode, I watched two versions of Supergirl recently.
The international release (124 minutes) and the Directors' Release (138
minutes). The international version has more scenes than the US
theatrical reslease, and one of the missing scenes included Sandra
Dickinson (Trillian in The Hitch Hikers Guide to the Galaxy). The film
made more sense with the extra footage, as usually happens when the suits
start clipping. Most of what was removed was (of course) character
exposition and development. The Directors cut continued by adding yet
more character driven scenes, and oddly enough, one quick deletion. One of
the Directors restored threads is suspicion on the part of the villain
about the identity of Supergirl. Another scene explored the relationship
of two supporting characters. There are also wrap-up scenes missing from
the other two versions.
If you are into this sort of film and have a DVD player or drive, it is
worth getting the two-disc set if the run of 50,000 has not run out.
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mooncat
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response 136 of 323:
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Oct 11 17:50 UTC 2000 |
(John- s'okay. :) )
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aruba
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response 137 of 323:
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Oct 11 21:52 UTC 2000 |
When I saw Supergirl in the theater 15 years ago I thought it was one of the
worst movies I'd ever seen. I wonder if it would improve with age.
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jazz
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response 138 of 323:
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Oct 12 13:26 UTC 2000 |
Vinegar doesn't turn back into wine. :)
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mooncat
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response 139 of 323:
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Oct 12 16:07 UTC 2000 |
can't make silk from a sow's ear...
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mwg
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response 140 of 323:
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Oct 12 20:53 UTC 2000 |
You can ruin anything if you treat it badly. Cutting 22 minutes out of a
movie can do a lot of damage to the story. If you have ever seen the
ABC-TV version of Superman vs. the theatrical release, much the same thing
happened. Scenes that would have made for a better foundation were
removed in the name of running time.
In Superman, the restored footage at the front of the film added a sense
of urgency, as you watch the Kryptonian version of the police travelling
to arrest Jor-El. Some later scenes emphasized the isolation that
Kal-El/Clark felt because of his powers.
In Supergirl, we see some early footage that adds depth to Zoltar. We see
a few more hints as to the nature of society in Argo City. Some restored
scenes show Kara discovering more about her powers. Also shown was that
the villainess was both more evil and petty than you might have thought.
I admit that I didn't think the original film was all that great, but it
improved a lot with the restored footage. The theatrical release is not
currently available on DDVD in the US, even the one-movie disc is the
international version.
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birdy
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response 141 of 323:
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Oct 12 21:10 UTC 2000 |
Just saw "Meet the Parents". It was a lot better than I expected, and it had
some good lines. Deniro was fabulous.
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ashke
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response 142 of 323:
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Oct 12 22:04 UTC 2000 |
I think that they do that in the real movies too, mwg. I hear a lot that it
might have been better if they had only, or hadn't cut... I think if they
spent a little more effort to get some of the background, and less on the eye
candy, most movies would work well. Take X-Men. There were some very simple
things they could have done to it to make it synch more, but didn't. Rejected
5 scripts, I believe it was (I believe anne will confirm/shoot this down if
I am incorrect) but using the excuse that 30 years was too much history to
get into a movie, they messed up a LOT of stuff.
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scg
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response 143 of 323:
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Oct 13 07:09 UTC 2000 |
I just saw Meet the Parents. It's the funniest movie I've seen in a very long
time.
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mooncat
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response 144 of 323:
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Oct 13 14:10 UTC 2000 |
Heh, yes, X-Men went through a LOT of Script RE-Writers. <grrs> The
original was probably excellent.
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scott
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response 145 of 323:
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Oct 14 04:41 UTC 2000 |
Tonight was "bad scifi movie" night. We had the classic 1979 "Star Crash",
and (a last minute pick because "Battlefield Earth" has not yet hit video)
the 1995 classic "Barb Wire".
Neither failed to live up to its reputation of awfulness. :)
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bdh3
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response 146 of 323:
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Oct 14 05:58 UTC 2000 |
Whats-her-name and I watched _Bullworth_ tonight. It was an interesting
film and interesting ambiance. The weather was once again warm so we
had the windows open, the sound of the rap music from the cars on the
street below fit in well with the rap score of the film with the
counterpoint of singing and prayers (in mandarin) from the evangelical
chinese revival going on in nai-nai's apt. upstairs - she usually only
hosts the wednesday meeting of her own group and the friday meeting of
the whole 'tong' is usually someplace else. Mary Wilson was upstairs so
it was a rare opportunity for us to view an 'adult flick' - due to
language in this case. Its a pretty flick, but again, not one worth
having paid real money to see in the wide screen. (My sound system does
the score justice (5 speaker + subwoofer zenith 'home theater'.) I
think I would rather have seen the Spike Lee version of the same film -
probably more biting and savage. Most all the good scenes you've
already seen in the trailers.
(potential spoiler)
Near the end I commented that in test screenings they probably had Paul
Sorvino's character shoot him - and no sooner had I said it than bang
somebody did (presumably he). We looked at each other and
whats-her-name said "The Raul Julia Rule"...silly me, I get more into
the flicks where as whats-her-name is more into the technical part.
Anyways, a good rental if most everything is already out. It is sorta
ironic some of the points the movie sorta makes in spite of itself. I
specially liked the 'lieberman' moment where Bullworth criticizes
hollywood elite for making crap movies, in somewhat of a crap movie made
by hollywood elites.
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wyrefall
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response 147 of 323:
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Oct 14 08:35 UTC 2000 |
I just saw _Meet the Parents_ and _The Contender_ tonight with some friends.
_The Contender_ makes me want to run out and run for office now (not like I'd
need much prodding). _Meet the Parents_ was pretty damn funny, too. :)
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