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jazz
response 120 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 18:04 UTC 2002

        It's true of any condition that people experience that isn't one
hundred percent visible and immediate.

        Cut your finger badly at work and people will rush to your side;  get
CTS or long-term spinal injuries from years of poorly designed office
equipment and people look at you as if you're trying to get out of work.
tod
response 121 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 19:17 UTC 2002

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lynne
response 122 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 19:34 UTC 2002

I occasionally forget to take my zoloft for one or two days.  I tend to notice
the effect pretty quickly--certainly after one day, often after two.  I get
quite sad and unmotivated.  Taking it again after forgetting is also likely
to lead to mini-mood-swings, which is mildly annoying.
Isn't motivation and lack thereof a fascinating problem?
bhelliom
response 123 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 21:02 UTC 2002

<grins>

resp:120 - That's pretty much the conclusion we'd come to.  Sorry if it 
sounded as if I was whining.

I've actually been very good about not forgetting.  In all, I've done 
so maybe once or twice.  The last week simply reminded me of what life 
was becoming before I started taking the Wellbutrin and Celexa.  
Unfortunately that means I *do* have to take them, but that doesn't 
mean I'll have to take them forever.  I'm simply thankful that I had an 
inkling that something was wrong, and that I took the steps to confront 
it.
anderyn
response 124 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 21:19 UTC 2002

Actually, cutting ones' finger at work doesn't mean that folks will leap to
your side. (Speaks the voice of experience -- I cut my right index finger
badly enough to need eleven stitches last August, and I was in a brace for
six weeks, and in rehab to learn how to move it again for another two months.
It was NOT something that everyone understood -- it looked like such a little
cut, but I'd nicked the tendon.) I've had more luck with people understanding
depression, but our awareness may be heightened by the fact that we have had
one coworker suicide and two family members of another coworker suicide, as
well as a few attempts by even other coworkers. 
bhelliom
response 125 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 21:20 UTC 2002

Wow.  An honest question, Twila.  What kind of environment is it in 
which you work?
jep
response 126 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 23:09 UTC 2002

My co-workers have been very understanding about my depression, and 
quick to offer help (mainly to listen) if I wanted to talk about the 
divorce.  It seems like everyone has been through a divorce.

I've had countless 1.5 hour "lunches", just driving around or going to 
therapy.  Lots of days when I just sat staring at my computer, or 
pounding angrily away at the keyboard; no one objected and they've 
pitched in and carried the load for me a lot.

I work at a great place.  I strongly recommend working at a great place 
when you're divorcing and depressed.
tod
response 127 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 23:33 UTC 2002

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drew
response 128 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 02:48 UTC 2002

Re #126:
    What place is this? And are they/might they be hiring soon?
jep
response 129 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 03:34 UTC 2002

I work at Sterling Commerce.  To answer your question about hiring 
soon: we're owned by SBC.  (It's part of the telecom industry, so I do 
not see hiring coming in the near future.)

There are rumors SBC wants to sell Sterling Commerce, which could have 
the effect of getting us away from the problems of the telecom 
industry, but would much more likely be preceded by downsizing.

SBC employees got an e-mail today about "voluntary unpaid time off".  
It doesn't apply to Sterling Commerce, but nonetheless, I didn't see it 
as a positive indication for the immediate future.
edina
response 130 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 16:13 UTC 2002

I wholeheartedly agree with John about being in a great work environment when
going through something stressful, whether it divorce or whatever.  Because
of the graciousness I got, I am a very loyal employee.
anderyn
response 131 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 18:09 UTC 2002

What kind of environment? It's an office for a non profit publishing
organization. About 75 employees here in Ann Arbor.
bhelliom
response 132 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 15:43 UTC 2002

I was just curious, as you mentioned the suicides.

I agree with Brooke and John. My boss is very supportive.  I decided to 
tell him as I was concerned about job performance, and wanted to assure 
him that this was not willful on my part.  I was glad to learn that 
none of this was noticed as having an affect on my work, especially 
since I was improving at my job the entire time.  
anderyn
response 133 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 20:35 UTC 2002

Actually, it's kind of surprising to me that we have had so many. Because it's
such a low pressure place, with a lot of support.
bhelliom
response 134 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 14:07 UTC 2002

Well, I'm sure it may have made the burden somewhat easier, or at least 
one can hope.  It's good that you *do* have a supportive environment in 
which to work. 
clees
response 135 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 21:01 UTC 2002

Yup.
One of my colleagues recently suffered from a breakdown. She is on sick 
leave now for the time being. As I understand it she is currently 
spooked by skeletons from the past. What kind of past she hasn't hasn't 
revealed yet, but I dread it has to do with over affectionate daddies.
Although I am no therapist I sympathise with her. At least I know what 
she has been through. What complicates the whole thing is that she for 
now refuses to seek professional help. She is scared what it will 
bringto surface. It tried to explain that letting things keep on 
festering doesn't help either. Certainly as she is affected by it now.
To make things worse she has had a burglar in her house.
tod
response 136 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 21:15 UTC 2002

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clees
response 137 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 09:12 UTC 2002

I got a hint in that direction (but not in so many words) from another 
colleague, who's in closer contact with her than me.
I won't pry.
tod
response 138 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 16:13 UTC 2002

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clees
response 139 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 22:02 UTC 2002

I did. Also because it helped me so much.
jep
response 140 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 23:33 UTC 2002

Today I had my first EMDR session.  EMDR is Eye Movement 
Desensitization and Reprocessing; it's a technique for alleviating bad 
feelings about yourself by "reprocessing" them, thinking them through a 
different way and then feeling better about them.

Though it's called "Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing", my 
therapist does not use anything that requires one to move his eyes.  He 
had me put on speakers and hold onto a vibrating buzzer gizmo (with one 
part in each hand), then go through some of the details of my divorce.  
The divorce is what's got me depressed.  At intervals of a minute or 
so, he'd stop and ask me what I was thinking about, then we'd go on.  
It was pretty intensely emotional for me.  You'll have to forgive me if 
I don't go into details right now.  The idea was to shift some of the 
ideas around some in my brain, or something.  I'm not too familiar with 
the theory, but it's supposed to provide permanent relief from the 
stuff that's being reprocessed.

I'm going to continue doing this at times for a while.  Right now I 
don't have much of an opinion on whether it did any good.  I can say, 
it was a very difficult session in therapy.
tod
response 141 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 23:56 UTC 2002

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jep
response 142 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 01:41 UTC 2002

I appreciate the kind thought, Todd, but it wasn't huge.  It was just 
difficult.
tod
response 143 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 16:43 UTC 2002

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jep
response 144 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 18:31 UTC 2002

Well, I appreciate the kind thoughts.  Thank you!

I don't know if I just burned out during yesterday's session in 
therapy, or made some real progress because of the EMDR, but I feel 
enormously better today than I did yesterday.  I have been burning with 
anger for over a week now, but not today.  That's quite a relief.
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