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janc
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response 119 of 143:
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Sep 29 02:20 UTC 1999 |
I haven't been on Grex long enough to be completely clear on the sacred
rituals of conference creation. I think you do need a fair witness. I
don't know if you need to be able to find anyone who actually wants to
use the conference, but if you create one without doing so, I think you
have no moral standing to try to push discussions of that subject into
that conference.
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devnull
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response 120 of 143:
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Sep 29 02:46 UTC 1999 |
Presumably if you have a fairwitness, that person wants to be a user of
the conference? (Or at least, someone may have invented rules on the
assumption that you'de have an fw who knew that there was demand for
the cf, which wouldn't necessarily always be a reasonable assumption.)
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keesan
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response 121 of 143:
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Sep 29 15:31 UTC 1999 |
How about a more general conference which includes gun control, such as a
crime conference? People could discuss every crime mentioned on the news.
And decide whether stricter gun control would reduce crime.
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pfv
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response 122 of 143:
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Sep 29 15:34 UTC 1999 |
We already discuss it.. Right in agora.
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dpc
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response 123 of 143:
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Sep 29 15:40 UTC 1999 |
My surmise is that any attempt to shunt gun control off into its own
conferences won't work, but I suppose it's worth a try...
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aruba
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response 124 of 143:
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Sep 29 17:15 UTC 1999 |
You never know until you try.
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gull
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response 125 of 143:
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Sep 29 22:28 UTC 1999 |
Re #123: It won't work because what's going on isn't debate, it's
evangelizing. The 'guns for everyone' types wouldn't be interested in
preaching to the choir in a gun conference.
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aruba
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response 126 of 143:
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Sep 30 00:15 UTC 1999 |
How do you know only the choir will join the conference?
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remmers
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response 127 of 143:
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Sep 30 17:25 UTC 1999 |
Probably not only the choir would join the conference, but I don't see
that this would keep gun items out of Agora. Evangelical types
generally want the largest possible audience, and Agora is where that is
and is likely to remain.
But be that as it may, I interpret Michael's resp:108 as "I withdraw the
proposal." However, if somebody else wants to propose a gun conference,
they certainly can.
Our practice has been to create a conference if:
(1) Somebody proposes it.
(2) There's been a few days allowed (usually 5 or so) to discuss it.
(3) After the discussion period, the proposer still wants it.
(4) Somebody volunteers to fairwitness it.
If all the above conditions are met, the conference is created. If any
one of them isn't, it's not. I think we should stick to that policy.
With respect to the gun conference, we had (1) for a while, but I don't
think we have it anymore. So far we haven't had (4). This could change.
If people genuinely want a place to discuss guns, they should certainly
have it. I seem to remember that years ago there was a guns conference
on M-Net that was quite active. But on M-Net at that time, there was a
sizeable group of users who were gun hobbyists, including Mike Myers,
the original owner.
As far as using a gun conference to control the content of Agora is
concerned, I don't think it'd work. Like I said, evangelical types go
hunting where the ducks are. Anyway, fads like gun control items tend to
be temporary and fade away on their own if left be. Conferencing tends
to be like the weather -- changeable and hard to control. I'll note that
at this writing, fall Agora has been up for over a week and contains no
gun items at all.
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md
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response 128 of 143:
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Sep 30 20:26 UTC 1999 |
You're right, John, I did mean #108 as withdrawing
the proposal. The gun control items in the Summer
Agora cf remain forgotten, and I haven't seen a new
gun item in Fall yet.
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remmers
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response 129 of 143:
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Oct 1 17:56 UTC 1999 |
See? The weather's changed.
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lilmo
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response 130 of 143:
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Oct 1 18:29 UTC 1999 |
And if that comes up again, I would remind ppl that the politics cf is a very
appropriate place to put them (via linking, or whatever).
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prp
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response 131 of 143:
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Jan 25 21:29 UTC 2000 |
After some responses in item 152, and some e-mail, I'm officially
proposing the Decorum confernnce. I'm also going to start a new
item to discuss Decorum. It should be #153.
Note as things stand now, there would actually be three new conferences:
Decorum, Decorum-Archive, and Cutting-room-floor.
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cmcgee
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response 132 of 143:
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Jan 25 23:01 UTC 2000 |
You might take a look at the Intro conference. It too was set up to keep
newbies from being overwhelmed by agora, and all the inactive conferences.
It died. Might want to find out why.
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use
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response 133 of 143:
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Apr 7 18:16 UTC 2001 |
I would like to propose setting up a new conference for the purpose
of discussing the problems present when using email for advocacy
with elected officials specifically the problem of the emails being
ignored and thereby jeopardizing the success of an advocacy campaign.
There has been some media coverage about this recently.
There are also some reports and surveys on this by the Congress
Online Project and OMBWATCH.(I will provide the URLs in future
posts or will give it to anyone requesting it by email.)
I am new to GREX and am not sure I will ultimately decide I wan't it
here because I find the Conferencing system a bit confusing, and I
would like to invite alot of people who are new to GREX to come
here and participate, and they might also find the system to be too
confusing.
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gelinas
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response 134 of 143:
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Apr 7 19:21 UTC 2001 |
This subject needs a conference? Start an item in agora and see what happens.
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use
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response 135 of 143:
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Apr 8 01:21 UTC 2001 |
Joe.
I would like to have people from outside of GREX also use the
conference, and they will have trouble finding the info in Agora.
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gelinas
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response 136 of 143:
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Apr 8 01:53 UTC 2001 |
I disagree, but that is no argument against starting a conference.
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other
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response 137 of 143:
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Apr 8 06:25 UTC 2001 |
Posting an item in Agora and seeing what kind of response it generates is
a good way to gauge whether there is sufficient interest in the topic to
support a new conference.
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use
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response 138 of 143:
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Apr 8 11:22 UTC 2001 |
Even if there is not a big interest shown in Agora, I would still want
to start it, because I would publicize it on many places outside of GREX
and bring in participants to the conference.
Also, in response to a previous question about wether there is a need
for a seperate conference for this, I have thought about the possibility
of starting it out as a seperate conference and later on moving it into
another broader category conference like the politics conference
or broadening the scope of the conference and renaming it.
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scott
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response 139 of 143:
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Apr 8 12:50 UTC 2001 |
I don't see any problem with starting a conference for this. It may end up
dying a lonely death, but that's no reason not to try it in the first place.
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cmcgee
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response 140 of 143:
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Apr 8 13:08 UTC 2001 |
Heh, Some of us FWs have conferences that are severely inactive, not dead.
I just KNOW that the Food Coop people would flock here if I only had a
separate conference for them ;-)
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keesan
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response 141 of 143:
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Apr 8 17:01 UTC 2001 |
I tried out a translators' conference as an item in the language conference.
It lived for a few days.
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use
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response 142 of 143:
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Apr 16 18:52 UTC 2001 |
Regarding my request for a conference about 'email advocacy':
I am not yet ready to make a final decision yet to start it,and need
some time to sort some things out related to this.
I am not sure how much time I need to decide,but will try to post
again about this as soon as possible.
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i
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response 143 of 143:
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May 3 23:36 UTC 2001 |
This topic has moved to the new coop12 conference...
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