response 118 of 133:

Apr 19 17:38 UTC 2001

No, I don't believe anyone has claimed to be the registered agent for
Property Exchange & Sales, Inc.

response 120 of 133:

Apr 19 17:56 UTC 2001

Not that it's the least bit relevant here, but to what extent does a 
"registered agent" speak for a company.  I notice that the Delaware state 
government website features a list of companies that will be your 
corporation's resident agent, if you want to incorporate in Delaware (a 
state where incorporation seems to be the main industry).  If we're looking
for somebody to speak for a corporation it would be much better to look for
a corporate officer (and even then, in some companies, purchasing authority
gets delegated down farther).

But anyhow, I really don't think it's any of Grex's business to speculate on
the structure or motives of this company.  As far as we know, it's a company
trying to make a donation to Grex, and trying to get a membership in
recognition of that.  The notion that they must want something along with
their membership which we can't deliver, because otherwise they wouldn't want
a membership, seems unfounded at best.  Why are any of the rest of us members?
The current policies are pretty clear on what they allow and don't allow, so
the only real question is whether those policies are reasonable.

response 122 of 133:

Apr 19 18:44 UTC 2001

I have been complaining to abuse@*.* about spam from their account holders,
and two of them wrote back promising to stop this from happening again.  Does
grex have a policy of terminating the membership of any member who uses grex
to send spam?   Is there some way to tell that someone is sending spam, other
than from recipients' complaints?  I ran across one little e-mail add-on that
would put all mail with bcc: (blind carbon copy) into a special folder for
you so it could easily be deleted, and just display the subject line.

response 124 of 133:

Apr 20 02:42 UTC 2001

Grex *members* rarely if ever send spam.  Occasionally, grex *users* who
are non-members send spam.  If detected in time, staff will kill
whatever process or script is sending spam, and disable the account.
It's then up to the user to contact staff and demonstrate a convincing
amount of regret and wont-do-it-again-ness before the account gets
turned back on.  Often, people who do this create "junk" accounts
specifically for the purpose.  In some cases, staff can identify a
"real" account associated with the same person, in which case that
account gets disabled as well.  Generally, even grex users don't tend to
send UCE - usually in these cases it's a "mail bombing" denial of
service attack against one individual.

response 126 of 133:

Apr 20 13:41 UTC 2001

Happily, the new "Corporation Information Update" forms from the State of
Michigan also include a line for "mailing address", which can be a P.O. Box
number, as well as lines for the name and address of the resident agent. 
The State acknowledged the last forms we submitted by sending mail to the
P.O. Box instead of to my house, for which I am thankful.

response 128 of 133:

Apr 20 15:50 UTC 2001

re #123: What an excellent job of non-confrontational communication.  
That's how it ought to be done.

response 130 of 133:

Apr 20 16:46 UTC 2001

Thanks guys.  I had some help from people at the board meeting.

response 132 of 133:

Apr 23 13:12 UTC 2001

Agreed that Mark's letter is exactly on target.  Thanks, Mark.