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dang
response 117 of 125: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 22:26 UTC 1999

resp:116 Sorry, that was via ATM. :)

resp:115  I wasn't really suggesting that grex use it, mainly because of 
the latency problem.   Security, as it's set up now at Ameritech, 
wouldn't be a problem.  I'm not even connected to Ameritech, I have an 
ATM pvc straight to Alter.net.  No one else this side of Alter.net, 
without direct, privilaged access to the ATM switches at Ameritech, 
would be able to snoop.  Even then, I don't think they could.  ATM is 
point to point, and point to multipoint, as far as I know, requires 
support on my end.
mdw
response 118 of 125: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 04:22 UTC 1999

Ah yes, uu.net.  I know them.  They seem awfully friendly to all those
spammers.
scg
response 119 of 125: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 05:19 UTC 1999

UUNet is the world's largest ISP.  UUNet has some problems with spammers, but
I doubt you'll find an ISP who doesn't.  I get the impression they do cut
people off for spamming, but there are always more where those came from. 
I wouldn't call it friendly; maybe just overwhelmed.
dang
response 120 of 125: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 05:41 UTC 1999

I had to sign an agreement stating that if I did anything against their 
acceptible use policy (including spamming) I was liable for up to 
$25,000 fine.  They have far and away the most restrictive anti-spam 
policy I've ever seen.  Don't know if they enforce it or not, as I 
haven't tried spamming anyone, but...
steve
response 121 of 125: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 05:56 UTC 1999

   UU.net undoubtedly is huge, but at the same time direct calls to
their people for abuse problems have repeatedly gone unanswered.  email
too--I've sent several messages to uu net about Grex problems and I
have never ever gotten a useful reply from them on any issue.  Ever.
The same thing for some situations where I was helping others.
mdw
response 122 of 125: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 07:20 UTC 1999

All I know is that whenever I see a spam, 3 times out of 4 it has a
uu.net dialup address.

There's at least one guy who's been sending one spam a day (excepting
weekends?) to a mailing list I'm on, for several months now, always from
a uu.net address.  I looked through news.admin.net-abuse.email, and one
person has posted at least 6 copies of that very same spam, and says
he's complained about that spam to uu.net six times since 12/15, as
trouble ticket #UU1175567

Here's a partial log of them:
Jan 28 03:51:15 -0800 1Cust225.tnt24.sfo3.da.uu.net [208.255 ...
Jan 29 07:14:04 -0800 1Cust75.tnt24.sfo3.da.uu.net [208.255 ...
Jan 29 20:53:34 -0800 1Cust119.tnt24.sfo3.da.uu.net [208.255 ...
Feb  1 12:58:10 -0800 1Cust75.tnt24.sfo3.da.uu.net [208.255 ...
Feb  2 20:31:57 +0100 1Cust209.tnt24.sfo3.da.uu.net [208.255 ...
Feb  4 08:12:48 -0800 2Cust6.tnt24.sfo3.da.uu.net [208.255.66.134]
Feb  6 04:06:46 -0800 1Cust12.tnt24.sfo3.da.uu.net [208.255.67.12]

(This is the spam that usually has a subject like "..your web site" and
goes on "We'll Submit Your Site To Over 900 Search Engines...".  It used
to be 700.)

I dunno how this guy gets away with it.

Does he actually make money?
steve
response 123 of 125: Mark Unseen   Feb 7 17:51 UTC 1999

   I have heard that some mass spammers do actually make money
but they are usually more targeting specific markets.  A friend
who is a dog breeder recently started getting dog-specific spam
as an example.  She even bought from these spamateers unforunately.
keesan
response 124 of 125: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 01:19 UTC 1999

Is there some way to set pine to reject mail from certain email addresses?
(Our laser fax can be set to not receive from certain other fax numbers to
avoid junk faxes, or set to receive only from certain other numbers).
scg
response 125 of 125: Mark Unseen   Mar 27 01:28 UTC 1999

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