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keesan
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response 114 of 157:
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Sep 11 03:17 UTC 2000 |
I must have missed the twit filter explanation because I have not been reading
much of agora recently due to all the meaningless (to me, anyway) new items.
I appreciate the authors of some of these starting them with 'An item in
which' as I immediately delete all of these. Could someone write a program
to automatically forget items with a certain phrase in their title, or
responses with words from a list specified by the user? I agree that some
of the m-netters occasionally post interesting responses and not all of them
are trying to be annoying and it is probably a small number of people giving
m-net a bad name. Would those people who like posting items and responses
of the sort that are annoying many grexers possibly agree to keep them
confined in a smaller number of items? Or maybe a different conference
designed specifically for people to tease each other in?
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eeyore
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response 115 of 157:
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Sep 11 03:58 UTC 2000 |
Near as I can tell, nobody is going to:
1. Ban any I.P. addys for something this dumb.
2. Sue anybody.
3. Put any sort of limit on postings.
4. Grow up.
Why does everybody feel that they need to just rip at each other for some
idiotic pointless reason? Every new idea is ridiculous, and then the next
person takes it and snowballs it, until everybody else in this item starts
taking it for fact. If everybody would just CALM DOWN fora little bit, and
stop acting like a bunch of 5 year olds, it probably would just be a matter
of time to get the problem solved.
If you don't like all the postings, fine, forget them, or stop reading Agora.
Dont't read all of them, and then *respond* in all of them how stupid it is.
This whole "us and them" thing really bugs me. There are alot of people that
are on both, and I really don't think that they should have to be stuck in
the middle. More than just that, though, is the fact that there is room in
this world for both of us (and many more!), and that it's not nice to
catogorize somebody based on their computer system.
The reality is that we are not the only computer system like this around.
If you don't like us, go somewhere else. Don't go out of your way to make
fun of us or our system. Don't go out of your way to irritate us.
And as for us, the same goes. If you don't like Grex, find a place you do
like. Don't whine about how somebody has come in and ruined us. Change
happens, cope.
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aaron
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response 116 of 157:
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Sep 11 04:06 UTC 2000 |
re #113: Would that be the stalking law recently held unconstitutional in
federal court, for being so broad that it could be applied to
infringe on a defendant's First Amendment rights? I can see the
argument now....
"Your honor, we need a restraining order to keep these people from
posting their comments on our bbs."
"Tell me about your BBS."
"It is an open system, in which we encourage the free exchange of
ideas. An uncensored, albeit not necessarily unexpurgated, exchange.
It's sort of like Hyde Park, in electronic format."
"And you want a restraining order against people who are using
your system as an open forum, as you intend it to be used?"
"Yes, your honor. But only to stop a form of speech we disagree
with."
"So you want an order, restraining individuals from making future
expressions of their thoughts, on the basis that you don't agree
with their content? A prior restraint, if you will?"
"Exactly, your honor."
You know what is toxic to the likes of willard and jp2? Being ignored. You
know what makes them thrive, like dandelions in a manure heap? Attention.
How about you stop fertilizing them?
I told somebody a while back that I owed Grexers an apology, for all the
times Iampooned them for dreading the day when M-Net collapsed, and all of
the M-Netters would come over and ruin their wonderful community. Sorry -
the Grex/M-Netter thing is much older than what may have popped up five or
so months ago. You've been dreading this for years. And, to some extent, you
were right. The drek of M-Net has discovered that they get more fertilizer
here than back home, so they stay.
It isn't really M-Netters. It's a couple of small minds with too much time
on their hands. Ignore them, as hard as that may be, and they'll get bored.
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gelinas
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response 117 of 157:
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Sep 11 04:17 UTC 2000 |
Yes, that's the law I was thinking of. And I knew that it would not apply
here EXCEPT that it *would* prevent electronic communication, contrary to a
previous response.
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md
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response 118 of 157:
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Sep 11 12:40 UTC 2000 |
112: The cost of mounting even a barely adequate defense would put you
in the poorhouse, "high-level network engineer-type positions" and
all. (Although it is nice to know that there'd be a pot of gold there,
however little it might've dwindled to by the time Judgment Day was
reached. Thanks for that info.)
Anyway, I'm not saying it would be a good idea or that I would ever get
involved in it myself, just that you never know what's going to make an
attorney's eyes light up. I probably know more attorneys than you know
people; believe me, it's worth asking about. Just a suggestion.
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twinkie
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response 119 of 157:
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Sep 11 15:07 UTC 2000 |
118: Your ignorance speaks volumes, Mike. I mean, right off the bat, the
defense costs would be nil, as there's no sane judge who would allow such a
case in to his (or her) courtroom, much less decide in your favor. And let's
not lose perspective here...Grexers haven't been all that cordial to M-Netters
here. Besides getting our defense costs back (from you) when the judge
finishes laughing at you, there could be a few suits coming your way for Libel
Per Se. (Remember some of the not-so-nice things a few grexers said about
M-Net staff? Hmmm?)
But hey...just for shits and giggles, let's say that you actually could sue
"us". Don't you think we could come right back and sue you for what you've
done to M-Net? Granted, I personally find it humorous...but legally speaking,
what you've done is no different.
I must say, your last paragraph conjures up memories of "my dad can beat up
your dad" arguements on the playground. Yes, you may very well know more
lawyers than me. Ooooh. Fact of the matter is, you only need one. So why not
get your famed tits out of the wringer, and put a sock in it?
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md
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response 120 of 157:
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Sep 11 15:24 UTC 2000 |
You missed the point, but (again!) what else is new.
I'm glad you "mnetters" are all enjoying my posts, and I wish you'd
just accept that and let go of all the hostility and anger. It's all
just pixels on a screen. And if the Grex folks happen to mention you,
jamie, willard, etc., when they talk to their attorney -- just because,
you know, they're going to be there anyway -- looks like all you need
is a sane judge so what's the big deal?
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twinkie
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response 121 of 157:
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Sep 11 15:27 UTC 2000 |
"It's all just pixels on a screen."
"By the way...we're getting a lawyer."
Make up your mind.
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birdy
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response 122 of 157:
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Sep 11 15:31 UTC 2000 |
I can't believe this conversation is still taking place. Suing people
because you won't type "forget" or install a twit filter? So are we
going to sue every person who irritates us at work, school, home,
downtown, etc?
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md
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response 123 of 157:
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Sep 11 15:40 UTC 2000 |
[slaps forehead] I don't know how I can possibly make it
any clearer without explaining it to you in short simple
sentences, as if you really were the humorless dimwit you're
pretending to be, Kevin. (Please say you're pretending.)
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jp2
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response 124 of 157:
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Sep 11 15:55 UTC 2000 |
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twinkie
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response 125 of 157:
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Sep 11 16:18 UTC 2000 |
re: 123 -- Duh!
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birdy
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response 126 of 157:
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Sep 11 17:05 UTC 2000 |
Re #124 - for the sake of argument only: You're on a Michigan BBS. It
would be like committing a crime in another state and being tried for
it there. I think. I really don't care, so I don't care if I'm wrong
either. =)
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void
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response 127 of 157:
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Sep 11 17:07 UTC 2000 |
willard has a long history of ruining, or attempting to ruin, that
which he is either unable to grasp or that which has made him angry. on
m-net he has been known to destroy conferences he fw'd, post hundreds of
nuisance items in other conferences, and fake his own death. he
apparently has an emotional age of three. handle him as you would any
other three-year-old who has a larger vocabulary than most.
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willard
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response 128 of 157:
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Sep 11 18:10 UTC 2000 |
#127: Good call.
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jp2
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response 129 of 157:
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Sep 11 18:31 UTC 2000 |
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birdy
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response 130 of 157:
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Sep 11 19:11 UTC 2000 |
I didn't say I agreed with it. =) I still think this is stupid.
And, as with most of Richard's completely asinine ideas, he bows out
after the first few responses and leaves us all to argue.
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twinkie
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response 131 of 157:
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Sep 11 19:14 UTC 2000 |
I think richard genuinely gets confused when people question his idiocy.
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keesan
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response 132 of 157:
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Sep 11 19:18 UTC 2000 |
I think Richard was trying to come up with a solution to a problem that manyof
us agree exists, but did not think it all the way through. Unlike a few other
people who have been posting on grex, he is well intentioned. If nothing
else, he started an interesting conversation.
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mwg
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response 133 of 157:
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Sep 11 19:21 UTC 2000 |
On the other hand, travelling outside the US would then be a risky
venture. Somewhere in one of the on-line legal sites there is a story
about a man who posted pro-Nazi materials on his US-operated web site.
One day whle travalling outside the US, he hit a country with extradition
with Germany, and was arrested, carted off to Germany, and has been
cooling his heels for a while now. It seems that German law prohibits the
distribution of Nazi materials. Since Germans can access the Internet, it
is illegal to post Nazi material on the Internet, anywhere, unless you
make it impossible tor Germans to access the material. I could not find
that specific case in a quick search, but I did find a page of some
relevance: http://www.abanet.org/buslaw/cyber/initiatives/eujuris.html
That page mentions prosecuting a CompuServe manager of some sort.
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eeyore
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response 134 of 157:
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Sep 11 23:27 UTC 2000 |
get it through your stupid heads...
NOBODY IS SUEING ANYBODY! Get fucking over it already. Whoever came up with
the idea should be shot, and the rest of you need to just shut the fuck up
about it. Get your head out of your fucking asses and start thinking like
adults. Shit happens. You either deal with it or ignore it. I've been (for
the most part) choosing to ignore it, with the major exception of this item.
And really, that's the only thing of the "M-net Invasion" that I've had a part
of.
And guess what: If you are pissed that a bunch of people from M-Net are here,
then you'd better face the reality that it was a bunch of people from M-Net
that started Grex in the first place.
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carson
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response 135 of 157:
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Sep 11 23:35 UTC 2000 |
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willard
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response 136 of 157:
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Sep 12 00:12 UTC 2000 |
135 said...
,C /bbs/coop11 item 198 resp 135 rflg 3 date Sep 11 19:36:27 2000 user
carson,26
60 Carson!
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(easy, Megan... put the chocolate down...)
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krj
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response 137 of 157:
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Sep 12 00:34 UTC 2000 |
Won't shooting someone result in more lawsuits?
I'm trying out Russ' twit filter scheme. It's very... tranquil.
I recommend it.
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other
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response 138 of 157:
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Sep 12 03:36 UTC 2000 |
Go, Meg, Go! (Don't forget to breathe... your digital cheeks are getting very
red.)
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