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kentn
response 109 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 6 02:23 UTC 1999

Ran across this web site the other day and it has some tips for
setting up XFree86 on laptops.  Dunno if it'll help or if you've
already seen it, but:
   http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/
gregb
response 110 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 7 03:59 UTC 1999

Re. 109:  I'd seen this before, but discounted it 'cause the author was 
using Debian instead of Red Hat.  Now that I know a bit more, I'll take 
another look at it.  Thanks for the reminder.
rtg
response 111 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 10 05:08 UTC 1999

Here's a few other URL's to go for help:

http://www.linux.org/hardware/laptop.html
  This is an index site, with links to specific case-histories people have
published as they work the kinks out of a specific installation. There are
specific links for the following Fujitsu models:


                          Fujitsu 635T 
                          Fujitsu FM-V 
                          Fujitsu Lifebook 280dx 
                          Fujitsu Lifebook 420D 
                          Fujitsu Lifebook 500 
                          Fujitsu Lifebook 655TX 
                          Fujitsu Lifebook 735Dx 
                          Fujitsu Lifebook 790Tx 
                          Fujitsu Milan 


http://galt.cs.nyu.edu/students/fox/notebooks.html
  This is a tech-reference which lists the specific PCMCIA and video
chipsets used in various laptops.  A great help to me as I was shopping,
to make sure I didn't succumb to some 'great deal' that had an unsupported
video chipset.


There's also a linux-laptops mailing list where you can ask questions, and
share what you learn!
subscribe at majordomo@vger.rutgers.edu.  If you don't know how to use
majordomo, e-mail me and I'll send you a help document.
gregb
response 112 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 15 00:33 UTC 1999

Re. 111:  'Tanks for the info, Rick.  The first link I've been to, as 
described in 110.  I'll check into the second.

Right now, I'm diving into the numerous FAQ's and HOWTO's on the RH 
CD's.  That should keep me busy for awhile.

Although my laptop wasn't exactly a "great deal," It does apparently 
have a supported chipset, according to XF86config.  

Anybody know, off-hand, what the vertical/horizontal freqs. are for an 
LCD screen at 800x600?  I've been playing hit'n'miss with the settings 
as the manual doesn't list them.
wolfg676
response 113 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 15 10:51 UTC 1999

I had some similar troubles with X and high-colour. after wracking my brain
over the problem, I discovered that for some reason, even after setting up
the SGVA server with XF86Config, that it was defaulting to using the VGA16
server. I finally cleared it up by installing the XSVGA server package, and
when it configured itself, it asked if I wanted it to be the default server.
said "yes" and it's been working happily at 800x600x16bpp. I'dlike to go
higher, but I don't think that the CT64300 VLB card that I have has enough
RAM to do that. KDE looks much better now...
and speaking of xearth, does anyone know of any clones of it for the Win16/32
platform. I've tried several other crappy world time proggies for Win9x, but
none of them do what Xearth or the KDE World Watch does.
larsn
response 114 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 15 15:20 UTC 1999

For XEarth on windows perhaps the following URL will do the trick:
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~mario/projects.html

Haven't looked at it myself, so can't say whether it's worth the time 
or not. Controlled by a tray icon apparently.
gregb
response 115 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 18 16:38 UTC 1999

Re. 113:  I'd tell XF86config to use the SVGA server, but depending on 
other settings, it would drop back to the 8-bit server.

I think the only chance of getting this worked out is if I actually 
show what's happening to someone who knows Linux/Xfree, and right now I 
don't know anybody who's into it in my area.
remmers
response 116 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 14:47 UTC 1999

Is /usr/bin/X11/X a symlink to something?
eprom
response 117 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 16:05 UTC 1999

usually to your server:
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root  wheel  22 Apr  6 19:05 /usr/X11R6/bin/X ->
/usr/X11R6/bin/XF86_S3
gregb
response 118 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 19 21:43 UTC 1999

Well, finally some good news (to me, anyway).  I FINALLY got XFree86 up 
and running!  How'd I do it?  Not sure myself, but I'm sure it had 
something to do with using XF86Setup, instead of Xconfigurator or 
XF86config.

When I first ran XF86Setup, I didn't expect anythng different from 
before, but when an actual color, GUI came up, my hopes were raised.  
But then, after a few attempts with dissapointing results, I figgered I 
was right back where I started from.  But why?  After some more 
fiddling about, I managed to get things working using the 16-color 
server.  Not exactly pretty, but it did work.  After reveling in my 
accomplishment (remember, I'm still a Linux newbie), I took a chance 
and bumped it up to the SVGA server.  And it worked!  I now have 256 
colors to play with.  Now if I can get it up to 16-bit, I'll be content.
pfv
response 119 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 20 17:31 UTC 1999

        I dunno... that "conifigurator" thang was a wash for me too..
        Setup was the way I went as well..Go figure.
gregb
response 120 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 20 23:14 UTC 1999

This should be (hopefully) my last mention of XFree86:  It's now fully 
functional at 24-bit color...<sigh!>
kentn
response 121 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 20 23:28 UTC 1999

Yay!
remmers
response 122 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 21 00:51 UTC 1999

Congrats! Configuring X can be a frustrating task.
shf
response 123 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 21 09:11 UTC 1999

Caldera 2.2 is supposed to be as easy as windoze shrink-wraps to install. It
's install program runs from inside windoze, including the x86free stuff. all
hardware is autprobed, sound suposedly works(!).  I'll know in a few days.
I've had good experience with caldera's 1.2 product, so I'm optimistic.
gregb
response 124 of 257: Mark Unseen   Apr 21 20:53 UTC 1999

Good luck, Steve.  It certainly is a learning experience, though I must 
say I had good luck with Red Hat's install program.
darbha
response 125 of 257: Mark Unseen   May 4 11:39 UTC 1999

Gentlemen! One of the IT magazines i had  seen recently, gave away Redhat
Linux 5.2 CD with it's latest issue. And i got the idea to try and install
it. But i'm a bit weird case.....i'm on a network and the systems guys won't
accede to your requests to get it installed on your pc the direct way. And
when i read the Installation manual, I got pissed off about the danger it
might do to the Windows OS running already...since i can not take a backup
as the floppydrives are disabled usually. So if any of you guys can make
sense out of my need to get Linux installed on my machine...if there is a way
to do it with out major hitches..i would be thankful to you.
 I can ask the lIBRARIAN here , who has the CD to load it in his computer and
i can access it via the company net...that's themaximum  i can do...so if u
still have a way out ...please..help me.
pfv
response 126 of 257: Mark Unseen   May 4 15:27 UTC 1999

See "loadlin" - see the README.
mdw
response 127 of 257: Mark Unseen   May 4 22:40 UTC 1999

The best way to make sure you don't trash your windows OS, is to install
linux on a separate hard disk.  With some care, you can even take out
the disk Windows is installed on while you're doing this, and if windows
isn't in the machine, there's no way linux could possibly trash it.

So far as the "floppies being disabled" - that sounds just plain weird.
It's possible that "floppy boot" might be disabled - if so, that's
something that you should be able to enable by booting the machine into
the rom bios setup program.

Another option might be to beg for some old hardware to install linux
on.  Linux will run fine on a 386 or 486 - machines which it would be
silly to install windows 95 or 98 or NT on.
ryan
response 128 of 257: Mark Unseen   May 5 02:03 UTC 1999

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gull
response 129 of 257: Mark Unseen   May 5 02:14 UTC 1999

You can do it.  You'll just have to be very careful to make sure you know
which partition is which.  What you'll probably want to do is *delete* the
partition you're replacing, and create two partitions in the resulting empty
space -- one for a Linux filesystem, one for Linux swap space.

The key here is to MAKE SURE YOU DON'T DELETE THE WRONG ONE.  :>
darbha
response 130 of 257: Mark Unseen   May 5 07:45 UTC 1999

But ROM-BIOS setup program is itself with a password which only the systems
guys  know. Do u know a way to bypass this and enable the drive, marcus?
cb311
response 131 of 257: Mark Unseen   May 5 17:57 UTC 1999

Either remove the battery from the MB or thre is sometimes a jumper on the
MB to clear the bios.  Find out brand/model of MB and look on internet.
rtg
response 132 of 257: Mark Unseen   May 6 03:03 UTC 1999

you might also consider the possibility that your organization places
restrictions on the use of its PC's for a reason.  It is, after all, their
property.  They might reasonably assume that you are 'damaging company
property' if you make unauthorized improvements to it's OS.
  Save the hassle.  I have three Linux-capable systems sitting here
gathering dust at my feet.  Look me up, stop by, and we'll build you a
Linux system!  I could even supply an old ethernet card, so you could
put it on the network, and access it from the company PC.  Actually, that
would be necessary, since I have only one keyboard and monitor.  Once the
system is built, you'd have to run it as a headless server, and access it
via telnet or X from another machine.
mdw
response 133 of 257: Mark Unseen   May 6 06:48 UTC 1999

Definitely, if you can't get some sort of official blessing to install
linux, don't waste your time.  It is likely that the reason your DP
people have disabled floppies, is because of fear of viruses.  Your DP
people may not be able to tell you this, because chances are that they
actually only have 1-2 qualified people who really know what they are
doing, and the rest are just preaching "the company line" without really
understanding the why.  Your DP people are probably also organized to do
their work "most efficiently", which in many cases means they don't
always listen good to external (ie, "customer" input), and may not be
prepared to deal with "exceptions" (ie, anything that is different than
what they think you need.)

If the major reason you are doing this is because of personal reasons,
and your company isn't willing to invest in your education (some are,
some aren't), then you may well have no alternative but to find your own
personal hardware and install linux on that.  One of the nice things
about linux is that it *does* run on low-end hardware.  In the US, it is
not uncommon for companies to simply throw away perfectly good 386's and
486's that would run linux fine, because they no longer runs anything
the company supports, and isn't valuable either to the company, or on
the public marketplace.

If you can interest your manager or other powers in the company in your
project, then you have a decent excuse to "do this officially".  If you
can get someone high enough on your company to bang on the DP folks,
this may be a trivial operation.  There are, in fact, perfectly
respectable reasons for your company to be interested in linux.  It is,
after all, a lot cheaper than MS$, and makes a dandy web server,
database engine, or can be used for a variety of other non-sexy jobs
that MS$ doesn't handle nearly as gracefully.  If you can find a
specific such application, and your company has any interest at all in
saving $, you may well be able "underbid" your DP department by showing
that you can do this more cheaply than they can.  This will work best,
of course, if you pick a project your DP department isn't particularly
keen on, but that other people in your organization do care about.  If
you pick a project your DP department *does* care about, or if they are
worried about being out-competed by you and put out of a job, they are
likely to underbid you anyways, and eat the costs, or can come up with
all sorts of other good reasons why they and not you should win.

In addition to picking an unappetizing project, and sounding as
non-competitive with your DP department as possible, you may also want
to consider picking unattractive hardware.  For instance, if your
project is at *all* interesting to the company, it may be easier than
you think to include a modest hardware budget in that project.  $4K may
seem like a lot of money to you, but it may be less than the monthly
electric bill for electricity.  Now, with that $4K, you could buy an
awfully sexy pentium /// system.  But you might be better off ordering a
sun system (solaris), or a power macintosh system (mklinux or darwin).
The thing is, the pentium system could easily be converted to run NT or
to play awfully nice games on the DP chief's desk, and they know it.
Even getting this machine from the loading dock to your office, without
someone putting in a bios password and installing "the standard" stuff,
could be tricky.  The sun or macintosh will be alien stuff to them -- if
they don't want to learn linux, they certainly won't be interested in
these other machines.  Chances are good these boxes will make it to your
office with a minimum of mistakes.
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