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aruba
response 109 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 19:57 UTC 2000

(No one's advocating a secret conference, as far as I can tell.)
albaugh
response 110 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 20:10 UTC 2000

Yeah, and how *many* Kiwanis items are there?  A new one every day?
A serious discussion, no matter how boring to anyone personally, cannot 
be mistaken for deliberate clutter.
jmsaul
response 111 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 27 20:11 UTC 2000

It's certainly easier to forget one mind-numbingly dull item than it is to
forget multiple ones, but the basic point stands.
i
response 112 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 02:29 UTC 2000

Re: #103/104
Pretty much what janc said.  Decorum was a new cf still closed to the 
public for set-up when its sole fw prp dropped it.  The cf will probably
vanish next time i do some serious cfadm-type housecleaning.
remmers
response 113 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 12:15 UTC 2000

Re #109:  Right, I don't think anybody's advocating a secret
conference.  (Except for the staff cf, private conferences are
against Grex policy anyway.)

Re #108:  When I mail inviting me to the revived Hitone (either
from dpc or Leeron, I forget which), it was billed as a place
to have serious discussion on general topics away from the
noise and clutter of the General conference.  Your double
standards are showing, Joe.

Re #111:  It think of Kevin's #110 as being the basic point.
What was your point again?
jmsaul
response 114 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 13:48 UTC 2000

All specialty conferences are places to have types of discussions that aren't
suitable for the general conference.  Nobody proposed hitone as a conference
to get away from the *people* who inhabit the general conference.  There's
no double standard here.
keesan
response 115 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 15:18 UTC 2000

Perhaps someone would like to start a 'party' conference for people who like
to enter short items of the sort m-netters seem to favor?  My point was that
I am getting tired of seeing agora full of things that don't lead to general
discussions.  I spend as much time forgetting items as reading items.  It
would be appreciated if the non-serious items could be fewer and longer, so
that it would be less work to avoid them.  
        Could someone explain about Hitone, does it actually exist?
        This item itself is turning interesting.  I did not mean to offend
anyone.  But isn't the existence of both m-net and grex sort of equivalent
to having two types of general conference, one more serious than the other?
It might be helpful to have two choices of general conference on grex until
m-net is running again.
        How would the m-netters describe their crowd in contrast to the grex
crowd?  Do the general goals of the two bbs's differ?
jmsaul
response 116 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 15:27 UTC 2000

All broad generalizations are wrong.  ;-)

Yes, hitone actually exists.  Yes, it has good discussions in it.
jp2
response 117 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 16:14 UTC 2000

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jmsaul
response 118 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 17:16 UTC 2000

Propose it, durak.
jp2
response 119 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 28 17:40 UTC 2000

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remmers
response 120 of 120: Mark Unseen   Jun 29 12:59 UTC 2000

Re #114: I doubt I saved the mail, but I'm pretty sure it
referred to the noise and clutter that tends to develop
*within* items in M-Net General and that make serious
discussions there difficult to maintain.

However, the mail wasn't from you, so I shouldn't assume
that's ther reason that you participate in Hitone.
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