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jep
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response 106 of 109:
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Nov 19 21:35 UTC 2001 |
I don't know, if I'd said "player" you might have asked me how many non-
players have hit homers in major league baseball history. (That answer
would be "none", just as the previous answer was "none.) It was a
silly comment, but I'm the idiot for answering it, I guess.
If a player plays DH for the middle third of the season, the at-bats
for those games would not count as at-bats by a shortstop.
I once saw Kirby Puckett, the Hall of Fame Minnesota Twins outfielder,
play 2B for a couple of innings. If he'd had an at-bat after changing
position from OF to 2B, then that at-bat should not have counted as an
at-bat by an outfielder. But probably the official statistics for
major league baseball show all of Puckett's at-bats as being those of
an outfielder. His at-bats as a DH or 2B or any other positions he
played would probably not be considered significant enough to bother
with.
Players who often play multiple positions in a game are not stars, and
their stats are not interesting when discussing the greats of the
game. If you can play one position well, then that's your position.
No team would mess with your ability by moving you around to different
positions. Only scrubs have to play a lot of positions in a single
game.
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brighn
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response 107 of 109:
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Nov 19 21:37 UTC 2001 |
#106, para 1> Best be safe, use "entity" in the future. ;}
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albaugh
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response 108 of 109:
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Nov 22 10:09 UTC 2001 |
Re: #104 re: "travesty" - That's an old debate: MVP is *not* synonymous with
"player of the year". Even with all of Barry's homers, the Giants didn't make
the playoffs. An excellent case could be made for the key players on Arizona:
Johnson, Schilling, Gonzales. I'm sure the sentiment was all for Barry, but
his "value" didn't help his team to the playoffs.
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jep
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response 109 of 109:
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Nov 24 02:28 UTC 2001 |
re #108: The precedent was set in, I believe, 1987, when Andre Dawson of
the Chicago Cubs won the award. His team finished in last place. Just
what was valuable about Dawson's performance? They couldn't have
finished in last without him?
The Giants almost made it to the playoffs. I don't have much doubt they
wouldn't have been as close without him. And for individual seasons, he
had the best there ever was offensively, by my definition. He didn't
just lead in two of the three Triple Crown stats (homers, RBIs, the 3rd
is batting average). He set all time records in those stats, and set
the record in walks as well. It's fitting he also set the record for
MVP awards; he's the only guy to have 4 of them. It was a season to
remember.
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