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tod
response 101 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 19:34 UTC 2006

Bonus question: What color shirt did Captain Pickard wear when he met Captain
Kirk.
glenda
response 102 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 05:10 UTC 2006

I wish to add my congratulations to the winners.
remmers
response 103 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 17:14 UTC 2006

(Obviously, only folks who were around Grex in 1991 could do the history 
quiz...)
tod
response 104 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 19 18:18 UTC 2006

I was here and could do it but I'm having more fun ridiculing the idea.
jep
response 105 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 21:07 UTC 2006

Gosh.  Let's see... Valerie was the first president, so she must have
been on the Board.  I think Dan Romanchik was the first treasurer.  Marc
Unangst was still under 18 so he probably wasn't included.  I think
Marcus refused to run because outsiders like myself thought of Grex as
"Marcus's New System".  Um... My guess is:

Mary Valdivia (chelsea), Valerie Mates (popcorn), Dan Romachik (danr),
John Remmers (remmers), STeve Andre (steve), Katie Geddes (katie), Brian
Dunkle (bad)

Or were there 9 Board members?  I don't remember.

Congrats to the winners of the 2006 election.  Thanks to all who ran!
remmers
response 106 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 16:18 UTC 2006

I was the first president.  Marcus (and many others) ran but wasn't 
elected.  It's always been 7 members.  You got 4 of 'em right - popcorn, 
remmers, steve, and danr.  So there's 3 to go.
tod
response 107 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 18:51 UTC 2006

Hmm..Jeff Spindler and Marae Price? *snicker*  Oh wait, I'm thinking of a
501(c)(3)..
remmers
response 108 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 19:53 UTC 2006

I've started an email list, consisting of the seven board members for 
2007, for purposes of scheduling the January meeting.  If any of the board 
members-elect see this response but *haven't* received the two messages 
I've sent so far, please let me know.
tod
response 109 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 20:35 UTC 2006

Please try to keep board business on the records, too, folks. 
slynne
response 110 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 22:36 UTC 2006

I got it but I have to admit that I had to go looking for it. My email 
is getting so much spam lately that it is nearly unusable. 
remmers
response 111 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 23:45 UTC 2006

Re #109:  Of course.
naftee
response 112 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 24 05:25 UTC 2006

congrats, you board people !
aruba
response 113 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 19:06 UTC 2006

I didn't see it, but probably deleted it by mistake.  My brain goes a bit
numb after the 500th or so deletion.
spooked
response 114 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 20:44 UTC 2006

Unfortunately when you have a dictatorial, non-visionary, inflexible, and 
(sum of parts) incompotent staff - the users lose, lose, and lose.

It is a shame that Grex can't get basic system administration/system 
utilities working.  There are much better free-shell systems out there, 
offering many more services, utilities, and membership strategies.  Grex 
may have been an honourable, competitive (in terms of services) system 
over a decade ago...but, today, it is --- sadly --- nothing but a (tragic) 
laughing basket-case of fuckups.

mary
response 115 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 21:03 UTC 2006

Oh, I don't know.  I think there are some pretty nice people who hang here 
and I tend to be able to get on most of the time.  We're not perfect but 
to listen to you it sounds like we should just set the hardware on fire 
and slit our wrists.

Sorry, but I think our biggest problem is a few problem users.  And they 
aren't that big of a deal.
nharmon
response 116 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 21:20 UTC 2006

Some of us feel that Grex's biggest problem is apathy and a general
comfort with the status quo.
mary
response 117 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 21:36 UTC 2006

It's not apathy.  
jadecat
response 118 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 21:42 UTC 2006

resp:114 dictatorial? You mean like demanding a decision made or else
you were going to leave and never come back? 

(the adult in my is still on vacation, and the child is wandering
through Grex.)
spooked
response 119 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 00:14 UTC 2006

There's a few people who need a match lit up; the hardware is a lot more 
diligent, responsive, and visionary than those individuals.

If you mate with them, the shit tastes like caviar.



cross
response 120 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 02:03 UTC 2006

Regarding #117; Then what is it?

I'm with Nate.
jadecat
response 121 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 02:33 UTC 2006

There's often a fine line between merely being comfortable with the
status quo- and demanding change merely for the sake of change.
Sometimes change is good, sometimes it's not necessary. 

For the layman it's sometimes hard to tell what side of the line some of
you "WE MUST CHANGE" types are on.
cross
response 122 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 02:36 UTC 2006

True.
spooked
response 123 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 06:21 UTC 2006

You don't "have to" change, but if Grex wants to move forward (and I'm 
seriously doubting that) then big changes have to take place, because the 
current processes have totally screwed the production line and it cannot 
keep good people enthusiastically particpating in staffing it (note, this 
does NOT include symbolicly staffing it, either).

If you think geez Grex must be great because of its balance sheet -- you're 
a moron.  Most of Grex's shallow bank account stays propped up because of 
large one-off occasional generous donors.  The question you should be 
asking is if Grex was financially sound (and it is not) is what services 
or give backs has/is it providing to the user/community base.  You only 
need to log onto freeshell.org and know half a degree or two about 
Unix/bbs/conferencing to see Grex is well over a decade behind and 
falling further and further behind every second.

It's sad enough that Grex is in the position it is in.  What's even more 
tragic is that supposedly responsible/intelligent/caring Grex-folk think 
it is all lovely and snuggly.




remmers
response 124 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 14:02 UTC 2006

This response has been erased.

jadecat
response 125 of 236: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 15:04 UTC 2006

resp:123 I don't think Grex is great because of the balance sheet, I
think Grex is great because of the community of people here. I've always
thought that one of Grex's main purposes in being was the formation of
community.

Also- I DO think changes need to be made- however, your insulting and
negative mode of arguing doesn't convince me that the MAJOR CHANGES
you're suggesting are really the best course of action. 

I would like to see e-mail restored for all users, I would like to see
newuser reopened so we can GET newusers. The RAID array conversation is
an interesting one and I'd like to see that pursued. 

Merely slamming current staff and the members of Grex doesn't really
propel anything but ire forward, now does it?
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