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jaklumen
response 100 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 06:37 UTC 2002

psycotic or psychotic?

grad school.. man, I wish I could afford that.  I'm down in the 
trenches with a sucky local economy, debt, and a baby on the way.
phenix
response 101 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 15:52 UTC 2002

i'm sorry. i think i've done my part in dating borken women.
i think i'm entitled to a little nookie that won't drive
me down the path of the dark side.
and my standards are high, hell yha, 'cause i deserve it
jazz
response 102 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 16:26 UTC 2002

        I know what you mean.  I'm beginning to think, these days, that
relationship insanity isn't something that a person has, but something that
two people do.  But it's one of those things that people understand so little
about intellectually that they find themselves acting in ways they can't
explain, for reasons they're not fully in touch with.

        Granted, some people really are whacked.  But even the most whacked
of them, and the worst relationship material of the bunch, eventually find
something.  If only for a while.  So there's a lot of give and take there.
brighn
response 103 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 17:01 UTC 2002

#101 sounded like Fred Durst and Trent Reznor tried to write a song together.
phenix
response 104 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 17:26 UTC 2002

why thank you. though i'd prefer lincoln park and tretn reznor, 'cause
reznor is da man and all.
but seriously, it's enough to make a man drink.
tempted to cruise the virgin vaults for unfucked up women.
either that or, ok, anyone notice that women have a "slut" phase?
why can' ti ever find a girlie in that mode?
like, what's up with that, sex is fun for like, 2 years or so and then
all of a sudden it's "a special and wonderfull gift"
wtf
brighn
response 105 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 18:50 UTC 2002

I dunno, but if you find a girl in that mode, find out if she has a friend
you could send my way.
oval
response 106 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 19:15 UTC 2002

i love how women who love sex are in 'slut mode'. c'mon people.
flem
response 107 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 19:27 UTC 2002

Actually, the reverse is true.  I find taht women in "slut mode" are almost
never actually interested in sex. [*] It's the image, the bad-girl thing.  

[*] or if they are, they still ahve just as high standards as ever.  They 
may want sex, but not with you, loser. 
oval
response 108 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 19:31 UTC 2002

haha
phenix
response 109 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 19:36 UTC 2002

i said "slut" mode, not slut mode. 
personally the world would be a happy palce if slut were as good a compliment
as playah
oval
response 110 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 20:13 UTC 2002

oh i didnt know playah was a compliment..
brighn
response 111 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 20:15 UTC 2002

It's less of an insult than "slut."
phenix
response 112 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 20:46 UTC 2002

most people i know would not be horribly offended and become social
pariahh's for being called playah
jazz
response 113 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 21:21 UTC 2002

        "Playa" is about as much of an insult as "capitalist" - if someone is
one, they're not really likely to be offended by calling them one.

        If I'm understanging Greg right here, the concept is pretty much the
same for both genders.  Guys can have their "slut phases" too, and I'm pretty
sure I've referred to myself as having one, somewhere in this conference. 
Fuck the occupation, we're reclaiming the word!

        However, when people are in their "slut phase", it's not that they're
crazy for anything to come their way, or even that their standards have
dropped, necessarily, but that they don't want to commit to any one person,
or want to explore different options, so things like long-term compatibility
can be completely eclipsed by a nice ass.  People who're in one tend to make
more superficial choices.

        You're telling me you want someone to go after you for more superficial
reasons?
phenix
response 114 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 21:45 UTC 2002

no, i'm looking for the exploritory bit;)
most people on the other side of the phase have gotten "board" wit hsex
or had such bad experinces that they don't want to have it or only 
have it one or two particular ways.
the "slut" phase is characterized by sex not being dirty, or sex being
dirty but fun and desierable, as opposed to an activty done soley
to please a mate or in a ritualitic fashion as some sort of bonding exercise
cyklone
response 115 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 13 23:04 UTC 2002

Or put more simply, you want Fun Sex, not Relationship Sex.

BTW, great comments recently. This is one of the best Grex discussions
I've stumbled over in a long time. 

phenix
response 116 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 01:39 UTC 2002

well, yha. fun sex. though my idea of fun sex
may be more like peoples deviant/relatouinship sse
err, sex
oh well.
cyklone
response 117 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 01:49 UTC 2002

Just remember, it's easier for women to go from Fun Sex to Relationship
Sex than it is to go in the other direction.

At least from what I've observed. 

jaklumen
response 118 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 03:23 UTC 2002

I'm figuring it must be a biological urge.  It's beneficial to want 
the male to be around for the potential kids.

I suppose you could find some horny, unfufilled housewife.. but I 
doubt that would be a good idea (y'know, being in the "other man" 
role).
michaela
response 119 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 07:20 UTC 2002

Um, I'm not in a slut phase, and it's not because I'm bored with sex.  
jazz
response 120 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 15:25 UTC 2002

        There are a couple of factors in the decline in the frequency of sex
from the first months (of sexual activity, cough cough) of a relationship
until the last, and only one of them is a decline in a biological urge.  The
one that's most significant to me, because it's most controllable, is that
communication becomes ever so much more important as a relationship goes on,
and a breakdown in communication can really kill a libido.

        Insofar as the "sex being dirty" bit, good luck.  I've never seen a
phase wherein people who think sex is somehow wrong temporarily change their
mind.  Even if they did, the guilt aftermath would be untenable.  I cannot
suggest strongly enough that no one, except for their own kind, date prudes.

        Now about exploration, your mileage may vary.  A couple of people here
have mentioned that sitting down and talking about exploration works for
them.  It doesn't work for me.  I work towards trust, and then once I have
trust, I experiment a little, and if they enjoy it, then I continue;  if they
don't, I stop, and often later ask why.  Works pretty well. 
flem
response 121 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 16:20 UTC 2002

It would be great if you could ask someone if they are a prude and expect an
honest answer.  
jazz
response 122 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 16:40 UTC 2002

        You can't tell, really?
flem
response 123 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 16:42 UTC 2002

Well, there are prudes and prudes.  You can spot the ones that won't swear
and get offended by dirty jokes a mile away, but...  I consider them prudes
also who talk a good game but are all talk.  Those are harder to spot.  
phenix
response 124 of 241: Mark Unseen   Mar 14 17:00 UTC 2002

otherwise known as type b prudes, closet prudes, and teases
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