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carson
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response 100 of 132:
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Nov 11 19:10 UTC 2003 |
(I hadn't said anything earlier because I have no doubt that Dan had
taken the right action, I didn't feel compelled to reiterate the
obvious, and had no reason to believe that anyone would seriously
disagree.)
(oh well.) :P
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gull
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response 101 of 132:
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Nov 11 20:44 UTC 2003 |
I agree with #100.
Besides, if cross resigns, the terrorists win. ;>
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cmcgee
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response 102 of 132:
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Nov 11 20:55 UTC 2003 |
I too tend to stay out of conversations when I agree with staff. My thinking
is that needless additional postings just drag out the controversy.
I will say, specifically, that I expect staff to use their best individual
judgment. If, in retrospect, other staff members or other users say, "maybe
next time, you might consider....", then I read that as support for the
current decision, and light being shed on the complexity of that decision,
which may have looked simple at the time.
I think cross did the right thing. I think he should stay on staff. I think
listening to other points of view and mulling them over; asking other staff
to think/talk through the process; and having a different set of tools
available when the next incident happens is what we all do, all of the time.
There is no need to turn a staff decision into a confidence-vote every time
the user in question whines. Staff is chosen because we trust their decision
processes, not because we expect perfection. If I _dont_ trust the process,
I say that in this forum. If I don't say anything, its because I think the
process is working just fine. .
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willcome
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response 103 of 132:
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Nov 11 21:11 UTC 2003 |
Keep in mind that cross has attempted to stop people from using this forum
to criticise blantantly poor decisions he made, and, when the people were able
to do it regardless, he responded by resigning. Surely, Grex does not need
to be staffed by people who "rock against free speech".
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mynxcat
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response 104 of 132:
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Nov 11 21:20 UTC 2003 |
Uhm, yeah, whatever
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naftee
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response 105 of 132:
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Nov 11 22:51 UTC 2003 |
re 102 You agree with what cross has done. Great, then why don't you follow
his lead. Be a hypocrite and resign, all the while blaming it on polytarp
and naftee.
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polytarp
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response 106 of 132:
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Nov 11 23:02 UTC 2003 |
YEAH
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spooked
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response 107 of 132:
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Nov 12 01:51 UTC 2003 |
As a staff member, and general onlooker, I agree with what Dan did. As
Scott says, there have been former incidents where we've felt compelled
to and have site blocked IP subnets. In this case, unfortunately it was
not effective, except it did serve to highlight the reckless behaviour of
vandals.
I hope you reconsider your resignation, Dan. We most certainly value your
contributions.
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jaklumen
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response 108 of 132:
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Nov 12 03:56 UTC 2003 |
resp:105 "and I'm not going to take it anymore, momma!"
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remmers
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response 109 of 132:
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Nov 12 12:31 UTC 2003 |
I very much agree with cmcgee's #102.
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scott
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response 110 of 132:
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Nov 12 13:50 UTC 2003 |
I support cross in this situtation.
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naftee
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response 111 of 132:
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Nov 12 20:38 UTC 2003 |
re 110 In other words, you agree with response 105
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triluda
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response 112 of 132:
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Nov 13 04:52 UTC 2003 |
i agree that cross should resign and stay so. he is a drama queen. he is quick
to do actions without thinking them out. he takes nothing well, bitches a lot
and then ends everything with either this is a waste of my time or i quit.
whatever later pussy.
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naftee
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response 113 of 132:
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Nov 13 05:23 UTC 2003 |
Later.
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willcome
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response 114 of 132:
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Nov 14 10:30 UTC 2003 |
110: It's sad to see the Old Grex community so united in being wrong.
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naftee
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response 115 of 132:
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Nov 14 14:20 UTC 2003 |
Or enjoying being wrong, for that matter.
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albaugh
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response 116 of 132:
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Nov 14 18:51 UTC 2003 |
a) It's not sad, and b) it's not wrong.
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willcome
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response 117 of 132:
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Nov 14 19:22 UTC 2003 |
What do you mean it's not sad? I think it's tragic that Old Grex -- after
having a staff member overreact in punishing a user, who he didn't know for
sure commited the incident until AFTER the punisment; punshed users who
demonstratably had nothing to do with the incident and who only had the
punishment undone by cross reluctently, after he at first refused to do so;
resign after two comments made by a wonderful lady; and cuss out JHC -- wants
that staff member back. Maybe you're an autist or something.
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mary
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response 118 of 132:
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Nov 14 22:23 UTC 2003 |
If I'm the wonderful lady you are referring to, well, you might want to
think again. You set out to light a fire and found someone with a low
flash point. Nothing clever about it. And nothing I said should be
construed to support your behavior.
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naftee
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response 119 of 132:
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Nov 15 03:24 UTC 2003 |
re 118 Exactly, but that doesn't mean he should take out his problems on other
people!
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willcome
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response 120 of 132:
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Nov 15 11:36 UTC 2003 |
118: Mary, it's sad to see a wonderful lady like you libelling people. I did
not set out to "light a fire"; I set out to correct a wrong. I don't see why
you wouldn't condone that, but oh well.
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gelinas
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response 121 of 132:
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Nov 15 13:21 UTC 2003 |
What "wrong" did you correct by filling up a disk and destroying another
user's files in the process?
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russ
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response 122 of 132:
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Nov 15 13:34 UTC 2003 |
With the ringing endorsements of cross's stewardship from willcome
and triluda, how could he even think of resigning?
Think of this whining like DDoS attacks on anti-spam organizations.
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triluda
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response 123 of 132:
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Nov 15 15:35 UTC 2003 |
because he is a smarty art nigga, russ -- get with the program.
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willcome
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response 124 of 132:
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Nov 15 17:00 UTC 2003 |
121: jp2 tricked me into deleting all my files on M-Net. I got him good.
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