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Grex > Music2 > #167: Recorded Music Delivery Formats Past & Present |  |
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jazz
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response 100 of 126:
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Jan 30 13:37 UTC 1999 |
<drift> Yeah, I love that name too. </drift>
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keesan
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response 101 of 126:
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Feb 1 00:28 UTC 1999 |
When do we expect portable recorded-music players that play digital music,
run on 2 AA cells, and are the size of a Walkman? (Smaller than a CD player).
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orinoco
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response 102 of 126:
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Feb 1 01:39 UTC 1999 |
I've seen small DAT recorder/players; I imagine they're mighty expensive, tho.
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eieio
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response 103 of 126:
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Feb 1 03:33 UTC 1999 |
And there are a few Mini Disc portables out from Sony and some others. I can't
make any promises on what types of batteries they use.
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shf
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response 104 of 126:
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Feb 1 04:04 UTC 1999 |
What do you call the Diamond Rio? not sure of how many batteries it requires
but it plays mp3s, but from what I hear, its a pain to use ( takes a long time
to load files)
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keesan
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response 105 of 126:
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Feb 1 04:13 UTC 1999 |
Is there music on a chip yet (longer than what the answering machine can
store)? I heard predictions about buying chips instead of disks, you just
plug them in like memory chips and instant access. Is this still a dream?
They have short tunes in cheap children's toys now.
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mcnally
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response 106 of 126:
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Feb 1 06:01 UTC 1999 |
It's probably not feasible to manufacture and distribute decent quality
music on any of the ROM technologies we have today and expect it to be
size, cost, and power-consumption competitive with other technologies
so I wouldn't expect to *literally* buy "music on a chip" any time soon.
Downloadable music formats that are stored in portable players with large
amounts of flash memory (or some other type of non-volatile writable
memory) are available now, however, and we'll find out shortly whether or
not the market will embrace them under the current cost, size, and battery-
life levels..
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scott
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response 107 of 126:
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Feb 1 12:15 UTC 1999 |
The Rio *is* "music on a chip". It is a AA-battery run device that is just
a little bigger than a cassette, and uses digital music downloaded from a PC.
As far music permanently burned into a chip, why bother? Downloadable music
will be *much* cheaper to manufacture and distribute.
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keesan
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response 108 of 126:
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Feb 1 17:12 UTC 1999 |
Want to sign to that prediction? Things could change in 10 years.
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scott
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response 109 of 126:
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Feb 1 20:52 UTC 1999 |
I'd be happy too; as a trend it has already been proved. Remember (well,
maybe you wouldn't, not being a computer geek) home computers that had
software burned into game-style cartridges? Didn't last at all. Generci
media like floppy disks were much cheaper to produce, required less commitment
to big minimun orders, etc. CD-ROMs are a slight exception, but they are much
cheaper to make than cartridges.
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mcnally
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response 110 of 126:
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Feb 2 06:22 UTC 1999 |
Except that besides the technological forces in this market you also have
to account for the paranoia of the music industry which is clearly scared
stiff when it comes to network music distribution. It's not at all clear
that they'll allow the best technologies to become dominant if they don't
feel that they can control them. They've torpedoed recording formats in
the past and they'll try to do it again. It might even work..
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jazz
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response 111 of 126:
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Feb 2 18:21 UTC 1999 |
Most of the MP3-format players also have the advantage of having no
moving parts, and therefore exceptional resistance to shock for those joggers
and four-wheel-drive enthusiasts among us.
The record industry's paranoia about MP3 is well-founded, but it has,
for the most part, backfired, and lead to an increasing public interest in
the format.
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gull
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response 112 of 126:
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Feb 2 20:13 UTC 1999 |
Re #110: Did the recording industry have a hand in Canada's new tax on blank
digital recording media? ($0.50 Canadian per 15 minutes recording time, I
believe.)
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orinoco
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response 113 of 126:
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Feb 3 03:12 UTC 1999 |
I think they were pushing for a similar tax on ordinary cassette tapes in the
U.S. when casettes first came out. Does anyone else know more about this,
or am I imagining things?
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drew
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response 114 of 126:
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Feb 3 03:28 UTC 1999 |
This in Canada is a "levy" - technically not a "tax" :S - which Canada's
Copyright Board has been authorized by parliament to place on all media
"normally used for recording music" leaving some doubt as to whether data CDs
would even qualify. The rate was allowed to go as high as 25 cents per 15
minutes of analog storage, and 50 cents per 15 minutes of digital. The
Copyright Board has not yet decided the actual rate, and isn't scheduled to
even meet to decide it until later this year (October?). However, whatever
rate is decided on is to be retroactive to Jan 1, 1999.
News of this cauesed a run on blank CDs in Canada back in December, and
several stores to jack up their prices to reflect the full "levy" amount, even
though it isn't even certain that CDR blanks will be included. Prices are
expected by some people to drop, since a lot of media in stock was
manufactured before Jan 1, and thus is exempt even if CDR disks are included.
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scott
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response 115 of 126:
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Apr 17 13:29 UTC 1999 |
I just bought a MiniDisc recorder while in Japan... needless to say, they have
stuff there we don't have in the US. :(
The recorder is about 3x3x.5", cost about US$300. And I brought back 50 discs
at a cast of about $2 each. Needless to say, the Powers That Be are not
interested in MD in the US. Anyway, it sounds quite good, and is wonderful
for recording like gigs, rehearsals, etc.
If you search for "minidisc" on Yahoo, you'll find a couple little companies
that import from Japan at decent prices.
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other
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response 116 of 126:
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Apr 18 03:14 UTC 1999 |
i have no player, but i do have one minidisc, which i confiscated at a
concert from a patron who blatantly ignored my preshow announcement
prohibiting recording, both audio and visual, of the show or any part
thereof. sonofogun is lucky i didn't throw him out of the theatre. he
acquiesced without complaint when i required the recording medium from
him. he knew i had him dead to rights.
if you want the disc, scott, you're welcome to it. (i'll have to blank
it first) do these things automatically format the media, or is that
just an option for the user?
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scott
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response 117 of 126:
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Apr 18 15:23 UTC 1999 |
Sure, I'll take the disc. But you can't blank it unless you have an MD
recorder, since the medium is magneto-optical and is therefore immune to
magnetic fields except when heated by a laser beam...
(I'd bring my recorder over and erase it in your presence, if need be)
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orinoco
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response 118 of 126:
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Apr 20 20:46 UTC 1999 |
The 50 in question are...blank disks I assume, right?
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scott
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response 119 of 126:
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Apr 21 11:15 UTC 1999 |
Right, blanks. Much cheaper than in the US.
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ryan
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response 120 of 126:
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Apr 21 12:54 UTC 1999 |
This response has been erased.
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mcnally
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response 121 of 126:
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Apr 21 16:00 UTC 1999 |
Really? Where?
I've done well with rebates on CD-R blanks but need to buy more blanks
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ryan
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response 122 of 126:
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Apr 21 20:26 UTC 1999 |
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scott
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response 123 of 126:
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Apr 23 21:11 UTC 1999 |
I was at Best Buy today, looking for cheap Palm Pilots (old one is getting
weird). Out of curiosity I looked for MiniDisc...and found it! Sure, it was
isolated off in its own little section, but they did have some decent stuff.
The same Sony recorder I bought was available for $350, and they had quite
good prices on blank media (10 for $25). Not sure how much they actually
stocked, and of course no choice of colors. There was also a small rack of
prerecorded MDs, containing all the big sellers. I bought a copy of Pearl
Jam's "Yield", at $9.99 (all the MDs appeared to be that price... not a bad
deal if you want the hits and have an MD player).
Cassettes are now strictly for the car and the Walkman (which gets used rarely
enough). I've hated the loss of sound from cassette for a long time, and MD
is a very happy thing to have. Especially when I record my own stuff (yes,
I didn't buy the MD recorder just to rip CDs)!
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orinoco
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response 124 of 126:
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Nov 24 20:37 UTC 1999 |
So the copies of Crimson's "USA" and "Islands" that mcnally sent me arrived
today - (thanks!) - and I'm thinking of trying to burn a CD copy of "USA,"
since it's no longer in print and I don't like the idea of playing a tape into
the ground that I can't run out and buy a new copy of when it dies. But I've
heard that burning copies of analog recordings is hard to do. Has anyone here
had any success at that? Any suggestions?
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