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robh
response 100 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 08:06 UTC 1997

I noticed that Grex had crashed as soon as I woke up Sunday night,
around 10:30 or so, but I didn't want to drive out there until I
was awake, and besides _The Tick_ was on at midnight.  And if scg
can use that "cold" excuse, I can use the "good TV show" excuse.  >8)
scg
response 101 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 08:06 UTC 1997

Actually, with the cooling fan, the Pumpkin stays pretty cool.
bru
response 102 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 14:29 UTC 1997

Damn!  4 hours?  you guys think your m-net or something?

dang
response 103 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 16:23 UTC 1997

I had other pressing business.  SOrry. I do reboot Grex whenever I notice it's
down and am free.
valerie
response 104 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 20:44 UTC 1997

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dpc
response 105 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 16:22 UTC 1997

Do we know how long Grex will be lobotomized while the memory cards
are being swapped?
valerie
response 106 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 20:40 UTC 1997

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janc
response 107 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 21:02 UTC 1997

We should note that we've been through about a dozen different combinations
and arrangements of memory cards.  So far we've found one combination where
Grex doesn't crash.  Unfortunately, it's a 32Meg configuration instead of our
normal 128 Meg.  This is being actively fiddled with, although the motd
message doesn't change.
rcurl
response 108 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 21:37 UTC 1997

That slow link has sure crippled ftp. Fetch is reporting transfer at 7
bytes/sec. 
ajax
response 109 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 22:17 UTC 1997

  It's probably also worth mentioning that someone has offered Grex their
Sun 4/260, in exchange for a decent 486 motherboard/cpu or 500ish meg IDE
hard drive.  (The exchange is overwhelmingly in Grex's favor - he's just
trying to put together a system for someone in need).  So we'll have
another case, and more boards, with which we could conceivably try new
combinations of things.

  Rane, it may be that a backlog of mail is hogging the Internet
connection, since Grex has been down a lot lately.
ajax
response 110 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 22:27 UTC 1997

  Oh, just read the announcement in item 4, that we're now running
with a 14.4k modem.  That would certainly explain this sluggishness! :)
janc
response 111 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 00:16 UTC 1997

We are now back to 28.8K.  More in item 4.
drew
response 112 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 03:44 UTC 1997

mail exchange with ford.com does not seem to be working. I am not sure
whether the grex-to-ford side is at fault, or the ford-to-grex side. I did
get the normal run of stilyagi mail, but could not find any of my ping test
messages in the file.
valerie
response 113 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 18:42 UTC 1997

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rcurl
response 114 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 18:48 UTC 1997

uptime gives the load averages, which tells us what the processor load is.
Could something similar be created for a *link load average*? That would help
users to decide whether it is worth attempting up/down loads at the time?
e4808mc
response 115 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 19:05 UTC 1997

can anyone explain what this means?  It appeared when I signed on just now.
And my backspace key gives me a control H, and doesnt back over the letters.
Last login: Thu Jan 16 13:49:28 on ttyh0
No mail.
/tmp/ts.3455: Permission denied
rm: remove `/tmp/ts.3455', overriding mode 0644?
srw
response 116 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 19:11 UTC 1997

The only kind of number that would be of some value there is  the 
average length of the packet queue in pppd running on the router. I am 
not sure that that information can be extracted and placed on Grex by 
any automated process. You might want to start a "garage" item to 
discuss link loading. I'm a bit over my depth.

There's also a queue of packets waiting on the other end of the link, 
and that is almost certainly inaccessible to us. That queue may be less 
interesting, though.
drew
response 117 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 20:38 UTC 1997

Mail from grex to ford went through last night.  I have yet to see if a
message from ford arrives at my ISP mailbox.

richard
response 118 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 21:36 UTC 1997

#113...is it grexpolicy to delete entirely the logins of users who send
too much email?   Sounds to me like staff overreacted.  Besides, all that is
going
to do to a troublemaker like that is upset him and causeh im to get 
another login withnewuser, and send out even MORE mail.

I wouldnt think there should ever be a situation where a login
of someone is deleted entirely without their permission.
dpc
response 119 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 21:42 UTC 1997

I support the staff's action on this.
richard
response 120 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 21:55 UTC 1997

couldnt staff have turned off his email permissions instead?   That would
have had the same effect.  Of course he would still thenj ust run new user.
rcurl
response 121 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 22:22 UTC 1997

I was a bit started myself by the statement the account was deleted. What
was needed, of course, was to stop the mail, which could have been done
less harshly. In any case, this speaks to the need for *policies* on what
is and what is not allowed, which can be accessed by everyone (with the
penalities listed). Freedom, yes; arbitrariness, no.


scott
response 122 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 00:22 UTC 1997

Um, richard, could you hip us to that exact command that cuts off mail for
a specific user?  I can't find it in the books anywhere.  ;)

This was a clear case of vandalism, setting an automated system to send
thousands of mail messages.
tpryan
response 123 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 00:47 UTC 1997

        Actualy, you should 'freeze' the user's login.  Change it's
password, remove all it's files.  That leaves a login that cannot
be recreated until it gets reaped.  This puts a 'loss of personality'
punishment onto that user.  Alot of people here consider their login
part of their personality.
richard
response 124 of 274: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 02:25 UTC 1997

#122...scott I dunno, staff could certainly arrange to have such a user's
mail files restricted so that even though they are still in his directory
he doesnt have permission to read them.  Or his mail files could  be
moved to a directory that he cant access.  Surely someting of the sort can
be done.
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