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scott
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response 100 of 137:
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Feb 7 13:11 UTC 1998 |
And the power goes thru multiple cables to multiple outlets. Maybe from the
breaker box, wherever *that* is in the building...
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valerie
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response 101 of 137:
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Feb 7 13:38 UTC 1998 |
I've been to Grex's breaker box. To get there, you need a landlord with a
key, and you need to go through another tenant's space.
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dpc
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response 102 of 137:
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Feb 7 16:51 UTC 1998 |
Maybe we could put the clamp-on ammeter across the ears of the 670,
repass the bylays, turn on the power at the breaker box, and see
if the 670 will rise from the dead! 8-)
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rcurl
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response 103 of 137:
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Feb 8 05:08 UTC 1998 |
Each cable can be measured separately. It might be useful to prepare some
pigtails - short jumper cables with M/F connectors on ends - with the
wires separated, and put them in the current cables some time the system
is down. Then you can clamp anytime you like. Or better, get an extension
cord that has a cable you can split, which has a multiple outlet junction
box on the end.
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gibson
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response 104 of 137:
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Feb 8 05:32 UTC 1998 |
I toured the pumpkin today, there's no simple way to do it. There are
too many hook ups.
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rcurl
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response 105 of 137:
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Feb 8 06:29 UTC 1998 |
Well, I haven't been there, but that sounds somewhat defeatist.
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dang
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response 106 of 137:
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Feb 8 16:11 UTC 1998 |
Oh, it's doable, but not easy. Rane: we have a quad extension cable with the
wires seperated. It's just not enough to plug everything, and I wouldn't put
everything on one outlet anyway.
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rcurl
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response 107 of 137:
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Feb 8 19:33 UTC 1998 |
So, get another quad ext cable with separated wires?
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keesan
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response 108 of 137:
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Feb 8 23:26 UTC 1998 |
We have an electrical meter of the type used residential by Detroit Edison,
and the appropriate socket (don't ask where we got it). The socket does not
have the cable clamps, they would have to be made. The meters are sold by
some place in Detroit, don't know where to buy a socket. Any interest in
this? We would like it back eventually. WOrks on 220.
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scott
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response 109 of 137:
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Feb 9 00:19 UTC 1998 |
<sigh> We *have* the tools, just not the discipline to do the work.
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mta
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response 110 of 137:
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Feb 9 20:34 UTC 1998 |
According to the MOTD, someone found thetime to take care of this. Thanks,
folks!
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dpc
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response 111 of 137:
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Feb 10 02:28 UTC 1998 |
Unfortunately, we'll have to wait a bit more for Steve Andre to do the
security check on the 670. At the budget meeting on Sunday, he said
he needed to get some authoritative lists of potential security flaws.
President Jan and others said that we couldn't just fix the most
likely flaws; we have to do the complete list because Grex is attacked
so often by vandals. He called this necessary wait a pain in the ass.
Which it is. But we can't risk putting up the 670 until it's done.
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aruba
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response 112 of 137:
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Feb 10 04:28 UTC 1998 |
Scott measured the power! It's about 10 amps. Thanks Scott!
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gibson
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response 113 of 137:
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Feb 10 07:33 UTC 1998 |
Is that 10 amps 24 h/day?
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valerie
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response 114 of 137:
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Feb 10 13:38 UTC 1998 |
DAVE!!! You were also specifically asked not to discuss that in public.
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rcurl
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response 115 of 137:
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Feb 10 19:11 UTC 1998 |
Power doesn't come in amps - that's the current. I've often wondered -
what is the power factor of computer equipment?
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mta
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response 116 of 137:
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Feb 10 19:20 UTC 1998 |
Dave, it's extremely unseemly of you to spread confidential information.
I'd have thought better of you.
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dpc
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response 117 of 137:
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Feb 10 20:10 UTC 1998 |
The fact that we don't have a list was *not* confidential. What *was*
confidential I didn't enter (obviously).
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remmers
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response 118 of 137:
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Feb 10 20:49 UTC 1998 |
I wasn't at the meeting, but nothing in #111 struck me as
sensitive.
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jep
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response 119 of 137:
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Feb 10 21:11 UTC 1998 |
Please don't misconstrue this question. I do not mean to attack Dave
Cahill (or anyone else) in any way.
Why does Dave have secure information for Grex? As far as I know, he
isn't in any administrative or staff position for Grex, and shouldn't be
privy to such information, unless he's offering legal services to Grex,
or operating in some other "need to know" capacity.
Why is a non-staffer in possession of system security information about
Grex?
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dang
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response 120 of 137:
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Feb 10 23:42 UTC 1998 |
Probably because he showed up at the meeting. (I didn't, I don't know what
was discussed.)
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other
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response 121 of 137:
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Feb 10 23:55 UTC 1998 |
having attended the meeting, and being neither staff nor board, i can say that
the only information discussed which was of a sensitive nature was not
terribly sensitive in and of itself, but just fell under the category of
information which it really doesn't benefit anyone to publicize. no big deal,
just common sense stuff.
don't waste your time asking me for any more details, they will not be
forthcoming.
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gibson
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response 122 of 137:
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Feb 11 06:23 UTC 1998 |
Rane, my 486 pulls 6-8 amps, with a monochrome vga, thru an inveter.
with deration for power loss figure 5-6 amps grid. turn on the printer and
it pulls another 6-8.
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dpc
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response 123 of 137:
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Feb 11 14:31 UTC 1998 |
Frankly, jep, I didn't think *anything* discussed at the budget meeting
fell into the category of sensitive security stuff. Besides, as you
well know, if some such things had been discussed I wouldn't have
understood them. 8-)
I had intended #111 to be just another in my series of responses
saying essentially "no progress on the 670". A snoresville response.
I don't think we'll *ever* get the 670 up, so my suggestion
in #0, that we dispose of the 670, looks like an increasingly good
idea. And #0 was entered five months ago today!
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n8nxf
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response 124 of 137:
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Feb 12 12:28 UTC 1998 |
(Wow! Patric! That is one heck of an amp-hungry printer and 486
machine you have there. What voltage was that current measured at?)
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