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25 new of 334 responses total.
cross
response 100 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 23:17 UTC 2010

Email's opt-in.
kentn
response 101 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 04:29 UTC 2010

What does he (or anyone) have to do to opt in?  Send an e-mail to staff
and request e-mail access?
veek
response 102 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 05:00 UTC 2010

might make a lot of sense to display a message when a newuser logs in 
stating what features are enabled/disabled/pending.
something like: 

To validate your account, type: 'validate'
For E-mail access, run:         'e-validate'
To enable CGI scripts, run:     'cgi-validate'
To create your Home-page, run:  'myhomepage -c'

For more help, browse: http://cyberspace.org/newbie.xhtml
etc etc..
kentn
response 103 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 05:41 UTC 2010

Yeah, that would work better than e-mailing from an account you can't
e-mail from ;)  
keesan
response 104 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 14:21 UTC 2010

Is local email also disabled now?
cross
response 105 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 17:40 UTC 2010

resp:101 Good question.  I don't think that was the OP's problem, though;
his account was not validated properly, and he was in the "newpeople" group. 
He should be okay now.
cross
response 106 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 18:12 UTC 2010

resp:102 That's a good idea.

resp:104 No.
kentn
response 107 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 18:50 UTC 2010

Thanks for fixing it.
tsty
response 108 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 06:33 UTC 2010

  
re 105 .. not validated properly,  ?????????????   what besideds the 
  validate commmaned is requiterred? 
  
cross
response 109 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 11:52 UTC 2010

It looked like he pre-dated the validate command.  I ran 'validate' on him.
tsty
response 110 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 23:02 UTC 2010

  
ahhhhhh .. good . . tnx
  .
veek
response 111 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 16:14 UTC 2010

http://m-net.arbornet.org/~veek/flyer/

I'm trying to create a CSS flyer so people can take print outs of it and
 post it up on boards (both IRL and on the net). It appears to render 
nicely in Opera even in print preview, but when I print to a post-script
 file it's all wonky.. 

Could someone test on their computer/printer? I'm on Linux and I checked
 in Konqueror - web rendering seems to be perfect, BUT print-preview
comes  up weird.. could someone check it out and stuff and if someone
knows  css.. clue me in..
slynne
response 112 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 16:29 UTC 2010

resp:111 It looks good when I view it in print preview except that it
doesn't all fit on one page
veek
response 113 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 16:37 UTC 2010

ugh!

I also need to know what's wrong and what browser/OS.
tsty
response 114 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 16:54 UTC 2010

  
re 109 .... i emailed your info...
  
6Message from yecril71pl on ttyp6 at 4:27 EST ...
Thanks for validating me, I can send e-mail now.
oo
EOF (yecril71pl)
Telegram from yecril71pl on ttyp6 at 4:29 EST ...
Thanks for validating me, I can send e-mail now.
EOF (yecril71pl)
  
kentn
response 115 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 17:26 UTC 2010

In print preview for Firefox 3.6.12 on WinXP it looks okay, but it flows
to a second page in portrait format.  I didn't try to print it.  The
content will require review if we go with this flyer.  We want to be
sure we're accurate in how we describe Grex and that all the links work.

I'm not sure if the web-based newuser is working correctly yet or not.
Last I heard, it failed part way through the account generation process.
Did that get fixed?  Can people use the web newuser page successfully?
veek
response 116 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 19:07 UTC 2010

1. any chance of getting CGI - SuExec+Apache installed?? It's easy on 
Linux.. simple apt-get. I need it for scripting.
2. tsty: could you activate/validate the volunteers account?
3. What SDF is doing is:
ARPA members have immediate access to:
 600mb total / 20000 files 
 access to multiple subdomains                              (mkhomepg
 -a)

Could we do the same?? "total" 600MB NOT 600MB/user.. instead of stating
 that we give xMB/user fixed, could we give both values..
rcurl
response 117 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 19:17 UTC 2010

In Firefox 3.6.12 on Mac OSX it runs over to two pages at 100% scale, 
but is all on 1 page at 95%. Prints OK too, then. However the Sercices" 
box and the graphic coflcit. I'd make the graphic smaller and expand the 
width of the "Services", or even not space them, to reduce the overall 
length.
veek
response 118 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 14:22 UTC 2010

http://m-net.arbornet.org/~veek/index.cgi

hey, hey check this out :) it's not working perfectly and needs more 
features (also i need to re-edit content) BUT

1. look at that file-dir thing on the right! also, you can click on 
those links and view the contents of the file!

What i'm thinking is EVENTUALLY (that's my home-dir for now) ordinary 
voluntary mice can edit "content" in a browser and submit it. Now! If 
you ran that on the main cyberspace website ANYBODY can edit code and 
fix things :)

And it's rock solid secure (once i do some thingies to it)! What I'm 
saying is lynne can put in her password over https (different from the 
system password - we could prolly make it the same thing too) and act 
as web-mistress!

2. Right now it doesn't do much, 'cept view files.. - it was for the 
volunteers page - for them to view crud.

3. You will also be able to view content umm.. like right now those 
tags aren't being interpreted but in the future volunteers can right 
tiny text files like poetry and have it appear.

(it's basiclly like a crummy MIS.. :p)

anyway.. it was easy to do.. i just bummed some programs :) but i'm 
formally registering this project and the grex-flyers project!! no one 
else should work on this urmm.. (that's a request naturally..)

(it's still in a very elementary stage..) You can do stuff like:
http://m-net.arbornet.org/~veek/index.cgi?
entry=/../../../../../../../../../../../../etc/motd

but it's read only and only has perms what i have
veek
response 119 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 14:42 UTC 2010

there are these guys on SDF.. whom i'm yet to meet.. who fought with smj
 (the head of SDF) and they got kicked out etc.. would it be in bad
taste  to invite them over? they started their own server or some such
nonsense  - everybody seems to think this place is "dead".. oh Grex it's
dead..  jeeze! what are we, ghosts?
kentn
response 120 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 16:37 UTC 2010

Boo!  :)
kentn
response 121 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 04:01 UTC 2010

Anywho, as I've been ranting about for the last several months, we need
to be more responsive and get things fixed.  Maybe it's a bit of the
broken window theory of community, but when there too many indications
that no one is minding the store, so to speak, it does look like the
place is dead.  The lights are on but no one is home.  It doesn't need
to be that way and there's no time like the present to start fixing
things that are broken or just plain inaccurate.  But it takes effort
and time and cooperation, three quantities that are always in short
supply, it seems.  I'm glad to see ideas such as those veek has entered.
Now if we could get that "Get a Free Account" link to go to Grex...
veek
response 122 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 13:56 UTC 2010

[rit]      psulliva nope.. i'm just learning stuff and it look like an 
interesting project
[psulliva] ah 
[psulliva] when did you get your account? 
[rit]      dunno a while back
[rit]                                 
<no message sent>
[psulliva] i tried to create one a while back and i could never 
           get verified 
[rit]      heh, yeah they suck at verification
[rit]      arbornet's not too bad at that.. cyberspace is the pits
[psulliva] yeah, thats a great way to get lots of users :/ 
[psulliva] i wanted the free php and sql 
veek
response 123 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 13:56 UTC 2010

err i;m rit btw
veek
response 124 of 334: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 14:03 UTC 2010

[psulliva] yeah, arbornet's 'newuser' login doesnt work for creating 
           an account 
[psulliva] frustrating trying to get into these services and 
           theres no way in, but theyre both pushing advert like mad 
[psulliva] anycase, gotta run, be back in a bit 
<psulliva@iceland goes AFK>
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