response 100 of 139:

Feb 26 20:51 UTC 2006

 First, re-evaluate your assumption that an inkjet is cheaper based on
 how much you expect to print.  If you shop carefully many laser printers
 can be had for under $100, and many under $200.  Their cost per printed
 page is usually *much* lower than inkjets, so if you intent to print
 regularly and really only want black & white you should probably select
 a laser printer.

 That said, if you go inkjet, be forewarned that the inkjet market has
 changed remarkably in the past 5-10 years.  It used to be that Hewlett-
 Packard was the gold standard of printer reliability and compatibility
 but they abandoned that some years back to concentrate on maximizing
 their revenue from the printer division at the expense of reliability
 and customer convenience.  I wouldn't buy one of their inkjets these
 days and if you choose one you'll certainly have difficulty refilling
 ink cartridges as one of the few technological innovations HP has 
 introduced in recent years is circuitry in the cartridges that allows
 the printer to detect when the ink level has risen in a particular
 cartridge and then refuse to print using that cartridge again.

 I have a Canon inkjet that I use occasionally for running off quick
 and not-intended-to-last photo prints to send to friends and family.
 It works well, but I'm not an especially demanding customer so I'm
 not sure I can say much more about it than that.

 My understanding is that at the current time Epson printers are the
 most refill friendly of the recent brands and they're reasonably well
 thought of.  I'd probably steer you in that direction, but if refillability
 is your goal why not ask Steve Whipple (login id charcat) who works
 for a business in Ann Arbor that refills inkjet printer cartridges?

response 102 of 139:

Feb 26 21:40 UTC 2006

I checked on cheap laser printers and found a Brother HL-2040 Laser 
Printer for $70 (after rebate....). What does anyone think of that as a 
reliable model? Also, while it has a USB 2 interface, the description says 
"Optional network Etnerhet and wireless print servers are available as 
well.". Since I have two Macs on an Ethernet LAN, and the LAN linked to a 
WiFi base, what are my options for operating such a printer on the 
network for both computers?

response 104 of 139:

Feb 26 21:54 UTC 2006

Woops, hit "post" too fast. Check out the customer reviews. Those people
can be BRUTAL if the product is no good. :)

response 106 of 139:

Feb 26 22:57 UTC 2006

epsons are probably the easiest to refill, but they have a chip on them
that has to be reset or they won't work, they can be reset up to about
10 times. I haven't heard of any problems with hp printers refusing to
print with refilled carts. but they will keep telling you they are
empty, just ignore it. The laser is probably the cheapest way to go but
you probably won't be able to refill it yourself (very messy). All
inkjet cartridges with the printhead on them can only be refilled up to
7 times usually, the printhead wears out eventually. Some hp printers
that use the hp56 (I think) cartridges will work with only one cartridge
installed.

response 108 of 139:

Feb 27 02:15 UTC 2006

 Actually, if you can find a good used laser printer in good condition
 that's a pretty ideal solution.  A $70 new laser printer is not going
 to be built to the same specs as a $700 laser printer that now sells
 used for $70..

response 110 of 139:

Feb 27 03:42 UTC 2006

You can often buy network add-ons for older laser printers.  We had a 1995
model with that option.  The add-on plus a used laser printer should be well
under $100.  The newer ones might print 10 instead of 5 pages per minute.

response 112 of 139:

Feb 27 06:42 UTC 2006

Re resp:100: Also, laser printers don't clog up when they sit unused 
for a few weeks.  Also, unlike an inkjet, the output of a laser printer 
is waterproof.  I much prefer laser printers (or their cousins, LED 
page printers) for black-and-white output. 
 
Besides HP, Lexmark has also mastered anti-refill technology. 
 
 
Re resp:105: My experience with inexpensive network print servers has 
*not* been encouraging.  I'd suggest solution (1) unless you're 
prepared to shell out a hundred bucks or so for a decent print server.  
The $30 variety are nothing but grief. 
 
 
Re resp:108: When buying a used laser printer, besides the obvious 
tests, you should do a test page and rub your finger across it firmly. 
You shouldn't be able to wipe any toner off the page.  If you can, the 
fuser is bad and you should take a pass on the printer.  New fusers are 
expensive. 
 
HP's office laser printers are quite reliable and pretty easy to work 
on. Parts are easy to get, although not always cheap. Wear parts like 
paper feed rollers aren't bad, generally. 

response 114 of 139:

Feb 28 01:31 UTC 2006

Just tried in both Pine and mail, and elm as well. Haven't yet found a way
to add a Reply-to:.

response 116 of 139:

Feb 28 09:36 UTC 2006

I bought the Brother HL-2040.  It fits my needs well.  The paper path puts
a slight curl to the finished page, but it's not so severe and I have had no
paper jams.  I'm still running on the supplied toner.

response 118 of 139:

Mar 1 18:46 UTC 2006

Re #s99ff: Footnote: the Deskwriter hadn't died, after all. The printing 
problem therefore had to be in the Asante Ethernet-LocalTalk adapter, 
which let me use an Mac (HP) Serial printer on an Ethernet LAN. That 
adapter is no longer available. So I'm just as happy to have an Ethernet 
printer. I can use the Deskwriter with my PowerBook 145 laptop.....(which 
I haven't used in a couple of years until now to test the Deskwriter).

response 120 of 139:

Mar 3 15:30 UTC 2006

While in lynx type Ctrl-K which takes you to the Cookie Jar.  Mine was 99
pages long.  I went through and clicked on each entry and chose either 'D'
(delete) or 'V' (never accept - from places like altavista, yahoo, google)
or 'A' (always accept - ebay, library - places you need to sign in that at
least keep your login name and enter it for you).  Now I have 5 pages.
You can also edit lynx.cfg by adding things to the accept or reject domains,
but you need to make your own lynx.cfg and relate it to the systemwide one
that way (see mine /a/k/e/keesan/lynx.cfg).  I still don't know the name of
the file that I edited via this cookie jar script.

response 122 of 139:

Mar 13 02:16 UTC 2006

Like when someone gives that girl a phone number and asks to find out
the ISP password. And she gets in a couple of seconds. What kind of shit
is that?

response 124 of 139:

Mar 13 02:22 UTC 2006

Re: #122. I don't have that directory. Open up a socket and send it to my
screen before the kernel multiplexes.