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pvn
response 100 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 21 05:12 UTC 2003

(spewing tequila out my nose laughing so hard!)
goose
response 101 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 21 18:50 UTC 2003

I like tod's sense of humour.
lk
response 102 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 07:04 UTC 2003

Swish. Scott misses the point.  I'm not right because I'm an Israeli.
I'm right because -- unlike you -- I can and do support what I say.
pvn
response 103 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 07:46 UTC 2003

So you finally enlisted in the IDF?  And you support what you say by
posting it on a safe BBS in the middle of the USA while living safely in
the middle of the USA where you probably don't even ride a bus which has
a chance of being blown up on your way wherever.  Yep, you and sure put
your money/life where your mouth is.

That dog don't hunt.
cross
response 104 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 15:24 UTC 2003

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oval
response 105 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 16:40 UTC 2003

and when was a bus blown up?

drew
response 106 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 18:18 UTC 2003

Re #103:
    I thought Leeron *had* been in the IDF. In fact I seem to remember
overhearing such at a Picofest sometime in the late '80s.
cross
response 107 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 00:32 UTC 2003

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pvn
response 108 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 05:38 UTC 2003

re#106: Urban legend.
tod
response 109 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 13:15 UTC 2003

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lk
response 110 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 15:38 UTC 2003

Back to the subject, see #96.
scott
response 111 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 18:15 UTC 2003

Sorry Leeron, you can't pretend 97-108 never happened.  Subject resumes at
#108.
tod
response 112 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 13:44 UTC 2003

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lk
response 113 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 15:53 UTC 2003

Well, let's ask Oval directly:

1. If one woman opposes feminism is that "proof" that it's wrong?

2. Is Clarence Thomas "proof" that affirmative action is wrong?

3. Is a "cured" homosexual "proof" that homosexuality is a disease?

4. What's up with being critical of an 80-line cut-and-paste, entered
   by Dan to support what he said, when you entered a 240-line
   cut-and-paste (see response #6) with no additional comment?

To refresh your memory, after Dan's cut-and-paste Scott said:

> Imagine trying that in a face-to-face argument, and you'll see my point.

And oval added:

> the point you'll see will be the way the person is looking at you like
> you're insane.

Not that I'm saying we should buy into Oval's "logic" (for then it would
be OK to pre-judge and dislike all members of a group because you dislike
one member of said group -- or perhaps that it's ok to try to silence
someone by invoking such hatist/racist arguments), but I do wonder if
Oval looks at herself as if she is insane.

Experienced BBSers will of course realize that contrary to Scott's assertion,
an on-line discussion is not like a FTF discussion in that no one has to
read what others post, one can skim or skip right past it. I suspect that
most also realize that Scott's response was meant to attack Dan rather
than to respond to what he had said.
scott
response 114 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 16:11 UTC 2003

Actually, the bit you were trying to (once again) ignore was the question of
whether you'd been in the IDF.  As before, i guess we can all assume the
answer is "no".
oval
response 115 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 19:32 UTC 2003

mt friend spent a year in prison for refusing to serve in the IDF

lk
response 116 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 00:40 UTC 2003

What an ironic juxtapostioning of arguments.

Scott would have us believe that I'm wrong because (allegedly) I
did not serve in the IDF.

Oval would have us believe that her (alleged) friend is right because he 
did not serve in the IDF.

Come on, Oval. Can't you address the 4 questions? Are you that duplicitous?
scott
response 117 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 01:36 UTC 2003

Don't fall for it, oval - Leeron has much more free time than normal people,
so he typically wins through attrition.
pvn
response 118 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 05:11 UTC 2003

So, lk, did you serve in the IDF?  And lets not play games like "yes"
because you attended summer camp as a child.  Did you, lk, serve in the
IDF the same term of service as the majority of Israeli citizens?
tod
response 119 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 25 17:31 UTC 2003

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oval
response 120 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 16:04 UTC 2003

well i don't see any of lk's responses. he's the only one on my
fascist-filter.

my friend refused because he is opposed to war and military, and does not
support his country's actions against the palestinian people. even the US
doesn't REQUIRE military service. i have another israeli female friend who
did serve, doing a desk job. she had to interview draftees and decide where
they will be serving. this was disturbing for her and after she served her
time she left the country. i personally would take a year in prison over a
year or more in the military also. at one point he realized that even by being
in prison and doing work required there was also serving the military state
and refused to do that too. he was repeatedly put in solitary confinement
until after a year they just got fed up and let him go.

tod
response 121 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 18:14 UTC 2003

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happyboy
response 122 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 18:19 UTC 2003

i think it's ness. for israel to have compulsory military
servitude, after all they need all the soldiers they can get,
being in the early stages of colonialisation of palestine
and all.

like in the u.s, in a few generations the pesky natives
will have died off, or become so broken culturally that they
will no longer be a threat, then they can end the practice
of military servitude...hell, your friend should be GRATEFUL
to serve in order to earn the privelege of living in that
wonderful nevada-like environment!
happyboy
response 123 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 18:20 UTC 2003

tod slipped. 
tod
response 124 of 166: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 18:44 UTC 2003

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