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devnull
response 100 of 111: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 07:03 UTC 1999

Re #98: If the incoming mail is queued on the mail machine, does this mean
you're planning to do MIT-style POP, or something else?
mdw
response 101 of 111: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 09:26 UTC 1999

Not sure what you mean by "MIT-style" POP.  Do you mean POP2/POP3?  or
KPOP?

We would probably choose to do a "special" version of KPOP.  It would
only work here with the mail clients we support.  Grex already has quite
enough "free email" traffic as it is; the last thing we need is to be
overwhelmed by a flood of people using the various popular pop clients
at home.
devnull
response 102 of 111: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 04:11 UTC 1999

MIT uses some sort of Kerberized POP; I'm unsure of the details, and
don't use it myself (I have my MIT mail forwarded to GNU).
mdw
response 103 of 111: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 10:30 UTC 1999

I use "kpop" at work, with k4 (des).  This may be the same thing as MIT;
the oldest name I could find on what we use is Dave Bachman (formerly
<dave@citi.umich.edu>, then <wk01200@worldlink.com>.)
devnull
response 104 of 111: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 22:49 UTC 1999

Then there are also krb4 vs krb5 issues, which I don't completely
understand.  Apparently, zephyr still requires krb4; I think telnet
connections at MIT use krb5 these days.
senna
response 105 of 111: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 12:12 UTC 1999

That makes sense to me.  I recall the mail machine becoming a large issue back
before we had the 670 up and running and people would idle out waiting for
pine to load.  The only real benifit I can see to a mail machine's capacity
is the potential for increasing ttys, which are always a hot commodity.
steve
response 106 of 111: Mark Unseen   Feb 16 12:48 UTC 1999

   Ah, 'mail machine' in which sense?  There are two that have been
talked about.  I think the staff has more thought along the lines of
a machine which would be the primary mail-catcher, such that Grex
itself did not spawn off sendmails constantly to get the mail.  In
this system there would be one near enternal smtp connection between
the mail machine and Grex, which would relieve a burden from Grex.
The other idea would be to have a seperate machine for mail that
people use.  I like this idea much less, because it has implications
for maintenance, and basically makes more work to do.
srw
response 107 of 111: Mark Unseen   Feb 18 21:16 UTC 1999

The mail machine, as currently proposed, is only to catch smtp mail from 
the internet and feed it to grex one message ata time. This will make a 
positive impact on Grex. This machine is not a post office machine. I do 
agree that the sendmail fangs Grex currently has, while not sufficient 
yet, are a minimum starting point for what the mail machine would need.

I think it would be useful if we set up such a machine but I also think 
it would be useful to move to a kerberos-based distributed services 
environment. This could potentially all for distributing other 
services besides mail. This is a much longer-range project, though. 

It's a tough call whether to spend time on a short term or long term 
project, but if Marcus doesn't want to spend time on the short-term one 
because he wants to spend time on the long-term one, that's OK with me. 
lilmo
response 108 of 111: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 02:43 UTC 1999

Re #82:  Why would you drop foot bones off a shelf, and then try to break them
with a very old hard drive?  :-)
scott
response 109 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jun 6 17:47 UTC 1999

Guess this is the best item for this:

Great news!  We have 2 donated SCSI disk enclosures which would be ideal,
except that they run on 240 volts which is not available in the Pumpkin. 
However, it turns out that the power supplies in these enclosures are good
for as low as 100 volts, so that we should be able to use these just fine.
Right now we have 2 disks balanced on top of a cheap little box... not very
elegant.

(I fiound this out while rummaging around during a backup)
janc
response 110 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jun 7 04:27 UTC 1999

Are these the big flat 6-drive enclosures?  Cool.  I think we have a
spare power supply for these too.
scott
response 111 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jun 7 10:53 UTC 1999

Well, it looks like only one of them is flat and holds 6 drives, but yes. 
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