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rcurl
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response 100 of 121:
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Feb 21 16:23 UTC 2006 |
I see no analogy. In one case a law is to be judged against the
Constitution, not against other laws. In the other, religions are vying
against one another, for which there is no standard.
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crimson
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response 101 of 121:
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Feb 21 16:33 UTC 2006 |
I see an *exact* analogy. You concede that there is a standard for laws,
while you conclude from the fact that all religions agree that there *is* a
standard for truth that they area all fantasies.
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rcurl
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response 102 of 121:
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Feb 21 16:58 UTC 2006 |
I made no such conclusion. There is no standard for religions. They all
choose their own stories and rituals. Resemblences between some of them
are a result of some degree of historical continuity, not a result of any
standard agreed upon among all religions. This is also true for
constitutional law between nations. A standard, such as the Constitution,
exists only within individual nations.
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crimson
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response 103 of 121:
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Feb 21 17:06 UTC 2006 |
You don't call
"'I believe there to be truth (and more specifically religious
truth) outside of humanity rather than each human being "making his or her
own [religious] truth.'
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"Every religonist can say the
same thing about their (and other) religions.
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"I conclude just from that that all of them are fantasies."
making such a conclusion? You say that each law does not carry within itself
the standard by which its constitutionality is judged, but that any position
claiming that human opinion is not the standard for truth is necessarily a
"fantasy."
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rcurl
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response 104 of 121:
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Feb 21 18:11 UTC 2006 |
I did not say #1. Please explain how #s 2 and 3 have any bearing at all
upon the relations of US laws to the Constitution vs the absence of anything
resembling a Constitution enforcable upon all (or many) religions.
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crimson
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response 105 of 121:
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Feb 21 18:40 UTC 2006 |
Note that the first was something you quoted and 2 and 3 were your responses
to it. You admit that for constitutionality we use the Constitution as a
standard, but you say that because every religion claims that an outside
standard for truth exists, every religion is therefore a fantasy.
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rcurl
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response 106 of 121:
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Feb 21 19:04 UTC 2006 |
I have never written "that because every religion claims that an outside
standard for truth exists, every religion is therefore a fantasy".
You are attempting to obfuscate a very simple principle. Laws are legally
subject to Constitutional authority. Religious doctines are not.
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crimson
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response 107 of 121:
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Feb 21 19:52 UTC 2006 |
You may not have written those exact words, but that is an accurate summary.
You quoted something that said, in more words, "I believe that there is a
standard for truth outside of human opinion." You then said, "every religion
can claim this." You then said, "I conclude just from that that all of them
are fantasies." The analogy holds: To determine a law's constitutionality,
we look at whether it conforms to the objective standard of the Constitution.
You appear to accept that principle. However, you deny that a statement's
truth value is based on whether it conforms to an objective standard rather
than to human opinion.
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albaugh
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response 108 of 121:
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Feb 21 21:13 UTC 2006 |
> It was the gross national product of the Phillipinnes for decades
Horseshit. And learn to spell while you're at it.
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tod
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response 109 of 121:
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Feb 21 21:14 UTC 2006 |
re #108
Vas you dere, Charlie?
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tod
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response 110 of 121:
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Feb 21 21:17 UTC 2006 |
re #108
Organized crime is probably a better definition of the GNP in the
Phillipinnes.
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naftee
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response 111 of 121:
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Feb 22 05:34 UTC 2006 |
http://www.prankster.it/No-Use-For-A-Name-Turning-Japanese.mp3
i think i'm turning japanese i think i'm turning japanese i really think so
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tod
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response 112 of 121:
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Feb 22 08:51 UTC 2006 |
I used to listen to Mission Burma and The Vapors when I worked at the car
wash.
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happyboy
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response 113 of 121:
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Feb 22 10:26 UTC 2006 |
"that's when i take out my revolver..."
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mcnally
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response 114 of 121:
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Feb 22 17:20 UTC 2006 |
(reach for, not take out..)
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happyboy
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response 115 of 121:
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Feb 22 19:23 UTC 2006 |
whatever.
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naftee
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response 116 of 121:
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Feb 22 22:02 UTC 2006 |
dude.
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tod
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response 117 of 121:
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Feb 22 22:10 UTC 2006 |
d00d
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happyboy
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response 118 of 121:
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Feb 22 22:57 UTC 2006 |
DEWD!
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naftee
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response 119 of 121:
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Feb 23 02:40 UTC 2006 |
how's that seattle air !
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tod
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response 120 of 121:
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Feb 23 06:54 UTC 2006 |
i scoped a sick olly, d00d
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wilt
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response 121 of 121:
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May 16 23:52 UTC 2006 |
HACKED BY GNAA LOL JEWS DID WTC LOL
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