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krj
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response 100 of 116:
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Sep 28 03:29 UTC 2003 |
The winning run: a walk, two stolen bases, and then a passed ball
on a strikeout allowed the runner at third to come home.
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aruba
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response 101 of 116:
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Sep 28 03:37 UTC 2003 |
Ack - I can't believe I game up on the game after 6 innings, and so I missed
the comeback.
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jep
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response 102 of 116:
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Sep 28 12:23 UTC 2003 |
I gave up on the game, too. (-: I was checking scores on football
games on the WWW when I saw the Tigers were tied up. I turned on the
TV just after the game was over.
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happyboy
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response 103 of 116:
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Sep 28 17:19 UTC 2003 |
re94:
cups hands and yells like stuart smalley:
"IT'S OK NOT TO MAKE THE BIG SCORE YOU GUYS, WE STILL THINK
YOU'RE GOOD PEOPLE!"
slynne is more entertaining at a 'hens game that muddy mudhen
is...
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slynne
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response 104 of 116:
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Sep 28 17:24 UTC 2003 |
It's all the cheap beer. ;)
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happyboy
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response 105 of 116:
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Sep 28 17:28 UTC 2003 |
...and the greasy slabs of mudhens pizza!
/munches on a mudhens corndawg
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gelinas
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response 106 of 116:
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Sep 29 03:09 UTC 2003 |
I saw an article in one of the Detroit papers which said that Mr. Illitch had
decided to get some good players, even if it did cost him some money. I just
heard the same thing on WDIV's 11:00 news. So may be some good did come out
of this season.
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albaugh
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response 107 of 116:
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Sep 29 04:29 UTC 2003 |
Sat. Sept. 27 the Tigers came back from an 8-1 deficit to win in the bottom
of the 9th 9-8. That was the biggest deficit overcome since 1965.
That made 'em 42-119, with *still* a possibility to reach "safety" and avoid
all associations with the '62 Mets, by winning on Sunday.
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albaugh
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response 108 of 116:
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Sep 29 04:33 UTC 2003 |
Sunday September 28, the final day of the season, the Tigers used a 7-run 6th
(their biggest 1-inning outburst of the season) to gut out a 9-4 win over the
Twins, to cap off an improbable 5 wins in their last 6 games, against teams
much better in record than they. That means that they do indeed avoid tying
the '62 Mets for most losses in a season, and fewest wins.
However, this was still a terrible team overall, winning at just above a .250
clip for the season. They did set the American League record for most losses
in a season. But since there was nothing to be gained by tying or breaking
the Mets anti-record, you can tip your cap to them for showing some grit in
the end.
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jep
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response 109 of 116:
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Sep 29 14:19 UTC 2003 |
The Terry Foster article Joe mentioned quotes Mike Ilitch as vowing to
spend to improve the team:
http://www.detnews.com/2003/tigers/0309/29/a01-282569.htm
Some Ilitch quotes:
"I am going to do what I feel is necessary to field a good team. I am
going to go out and sign free agents. I am going to operate like other
teams because I feel I have a foundation. I understand our youth and
it is not real complicated now. We are going to fill the holes and see
how it works. Everybody can pass judgment on it."
"People kind of laughed at me, but they asked me what team do you want
to pattern yourself after and I said Minnesota. And they laughed and
they roared. But they drafted right and look where they are.
"It boils down to assessing talent and hiring the best people.
"You are talking about the past, and I want to talk about the future.
I don't know what good it does to talk about the past."
"I am telling you we are going out and getting ball players, and we are
going to have a good team. We are on our way up. I cannot tell you we
are going to have a championship caliber team (in 2004), but we will be
a better team."
"This is what major-league league sports is all about -- talent and
leadership. Alan can do a much better job if he's given talent. He
hasn't had a lot of talent to work with. We turned the kids over to
him. We knew we we're going to take a bit of a hit. Of course, we
didn't ever think it was going to be this severe."
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jep
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response 110 of 116:
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Sep 29 14:42 UTC 2003 |
That article says many of the things I've been waiting to hear. It
appears to acknowledge that there is not enough talent within the
Tigers organization to compete; that the only near-term solution is to
go to the free agent market; and that Mike Ilitch is committed to
making the Tigers into a winner.
Now that he's said it, he just has to do it, and Dave Dombrowski, the
general manager, has to spend the money wisely. We can't have more $10
million per year Bobby Higginsons and $8 million per year Dean Palmers
and Damion Easleys; guys who were all, at one time, above-average ball
players but never anywhere near being stars.
We need to see some guys brought into the minors who have the talent
and are given the coaching to succeed at the major league level.
Before that, we need some starting-quality every day baseball players.
Immediately, we need a catcher, shortstop and center fielder who can
field as well as an average major league baseball player and also hit
well. The Tigers don't have anyone on the team, or in the minors, with
any hope of achieving at that level.
The Tigers were able to cut salary for next year by some $20-25
million, and now need to invest that money. They cut Damion Easley
($14 million for this year and next year), and Dean Palmer ($8
million), Craig Paquette ($2 million). They'll also probably lose
Shane Halter ($2 million) and Matt Anderson ($3.2 million).
In another year they'll be able to dump Bobby Higginson ($12 million);
there's no reason they can't apply that money to better baseball
players as well.
All of those guys were signed to big contracts by Randy Smith, who
never had any idea what constituted a good baseball player. Dave
Dombrowski is better at evaluating talent. Therein lies my hope for
next year and the next few years. If Dombrowski is given the money
that Randy Smith was allowed to spend, I think he can build a good
baseball team with it.
But, we'll see.
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murph
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response 111 of 116:
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Sep 29 14:43 UTC 2003 |
Wouldn't it almost be better if the Tigers had beaten the record? Then they'd
have undoubtedly hit bottom and would only be able to improve. It's like the
Lions: why can't they go completely winless and be a memorably horrible team,
instead of dragging out one or two wins per season and being merely on the
low end of mediocre?
I'm at least half trolling here...
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jep
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response 112 of 116:
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Sep 29 15:27 UTC 2003 |
Imagine that... (-:
The Tigers can always be worse as long as their record is not 0-162. I
think it's a pretty fair bet that they'll win more than 43 games next
year. I don't distinguish much between 43 and 70 wins, though; either
way you're a last place team. They haven't improved until they're not
last place in their division. I hope they won't be in last place again
next year.
They haven't really improved until they break this string of
consecutive losing seasons. This was the 10th or 11th straight year
with a less than .500 record. I'd be delighted if they win game #82
next year.
They aren't a good team until they make it into the playoffs. They're
at least a couple of years away from that. I can wait if they start to
improve. (If they don't start to improve, I'll wait anyway, of course.)
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albaugh
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response 113 of 116:
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Sep 29 17:31 UTC 2003 |
No, it would not have been better for them to have set any more records for
being the worst team in some regard. Losing 4 more games and having all the
"worst" records for themselves would not have made Illitch decide to do
something different than what he has already announced. At least this way
people (at least outside of Detroit) will quickly forget about how bad they
really were.
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flem
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response 114 of 116:
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Sep 29 19:04 UTC 2003 |
I was hoping the Tigers would lose out also. As one of my friends put it,
"Stupid Tigers can't even lose right."
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albaugh
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response 115 of 116:
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Sep 29 19:06 UTC 2003 |
Then s/he is just as "stupid" as the Tigers. ;-)
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willcome
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response 116 of 116:
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Nov 27 07:44 UTC 2003 |
I wish I knew how to whorek out what you're saying. I just don't understand
it. These guys are from England, and who gives a shit?
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