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New item hide and seek Mark Unseen   Feb 9 22:03 UTC 2000

This is not a new topic, but every time I join a new conference or a
rollover, I am only informed of the existence of two items.  I know this
practice was instituted so as to avoid overwhelming those joining an
existing item, but I would like to discuss the possibility of either
reverting to "full disclosure" or of the technical feasibility of giving
users the choice.
49 responses total.
other
response 1 of 49: Mark Unseen   Feb 9 22:05 UTC 2000

err, change "item" at the beginning of line four to "conference".
don
response 2 of 49: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 00:28 UTC 2000

I'd like to see something like this too. Maybe a "fixnew" command to
complement fixseen so that everything will be marked new.
mdw
response 3 of 49: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 06:02 UTC 2000

Why not use "read all"?
krj
response 4 of 49: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 06:08 UTC 2000

or "read since mm/dd", which is a favorite of mine.
remmers
response 5 of 49: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 11:09 UTC 2000

Right.  In Picospan, there are various forms of "read" command that give
users a choice.  I also like "read since -n", which shows everything
that's new in the last n days.

Users have to do a bit of digging to find out what the choices are, but
that kind of goes with the territory when you offer a flexible command
line interface such as Picospan with lots of options.

In Backtalk, the fairwitness can configure what items are treated as
"new" the first time a user joins a conference.
tpryan
response 6 of 49: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 23:33 UTC 2000

        It would be nice if the system could figure out about the
last 5000 words (or 500 lines) and set up a 'read since' for that
time back.  That way, a new .cf joined would show about 20 screens
of text and hopefully cover more that two items.
don
response 7 of 49: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 03:27 UTC 2000

I think that there should be a way to mark everything as new. Many times when
I start looking at a conference there is too much stuff to read at one
sitting, but I do want to keep tabs on activity. Trashing the participation
file doesn't work.

I guess it's the idea that items you haven't read shouldn't be marked read
unless *you* choose it to be like that.
mdw
response 8 of 49: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 03:51 UTC 2000

The middle items in a conference you join aren't marked as "seen", they
are marked as "unseen".  "read unseen" will show them all to you.
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