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brainstorming on the future of Grex Mark Unseen   May 1 13:19 UTC 2018

The discussion cmccabe started deserves its own Backtalk item.

http://www.grex.org/~cmccabe/grex2.0.html

I think most active Grex members share cmccabe's feelings. What we have here
on Grex is never going to be of interest to more than a small niche of users,
but there is a significant potential community hidden within the millions of
Internetters. We can keep the fire going, make some improvements, and who know
what will happen?

Personally, I think brushing up Backtalk to get rid of the web interface
crashes and Fronttalk to fix the next unread post marking subsystem will make
the conference system a lot easier to use for both new and old users. There
has been disscussion of this in the Garage conference.
10 responses total.
cross
response 1 of 10: Mark Unseen   May 1 14:04 UTC 2018

I've skimmed this; I'll give it a proper reading later.

Yes, these are good ideas: I say go for it.

A former Grex board member once told me to take Grex, and
make it what I thought it should be.  I've never had the
time, but given that this place is basically an empty shell,
I think that's a great idea.

Take it, make it what you want it to be.  If it makes sense,
I'll support you!
tod
response 2 of 10: Mark Unseen   May 1 18:28 UTC 2018

Follow your dreams.  Hitch your wagons to a star.
Wash up when you're done.
cmccabe
response 3 of 10: Mark Unseen   May 3 10:11 UTC 2018

Thanks papa.  And sorry I didn't see this post until now.  It seems like the
next steps are to establish what the next steps are.  Not knowing exactly how
to do that in a way that engages as many Grex users as possible, I've simply
been trudging ahead with trying to put some ideas in linear order.  I've been
doing that both by continuing to revise the file you linked above, papa, and
by writing a longer, more general document on what I think is the general
niche and opportunity for any nameless system like grex.  I'll post the second
here as soon as it has enough coherence so as to not appear like the writings
of a lunatic (appearances are important, you know).
I think it would be great to organize collective input into a revision of that
grex2.0 file as a way of planning the next steps.  Do you have any ideas about
ways to do this? Set up a wiki? Use git? etc.
On the topic of the "significant potential community hidden within the
millions of Internetters", it is a good question of what the possibilities
are.  As I've been working on the more general document mentioned above, I've
been doing some "ethnographic" research on other public access unix systems
and similar shell-based communities; and I've been both surprised and excited
by how many scattered people out there have the same ideas and are really
enthusiastic about them.  So I'm not sure about absolute numbers, but there
is certainly a dispersed crowd of passionate people who are looking for
something like this.
cross
response 4 of 10: Mark Unseen   May 3 15:07 UTC 2018

An idea: put your thoughts in a file, format it using Markdown.
Push that to github, and invite comments. Or use something like
Google Docs.
cross
response 5 of 10: Mark Unseen   May 3 15:07 UTC 2018

Oh, and I forgot to mention: post links here, along with notices
about when it's updated. :-)
cmccabe
response 6 of 10: Mark Unseen   May 4 16:07 UTC 2018

Will do.  Working on it right now.
cmccabe
response 7 of 10: Mark Unseen   May 9 02:20 UTC 2018

I put the text up in markdown format here:
https://bitbucket.org/cmccabeMD/grex2.0/src/c6c30d019fae291478740a3437e4c1
7a13
c139c2/brainstorm.md

It took me a while to put this up because I am working on a larger "manifesto"
to go along with this, and that has been a rabbit hole.  But it is coming
along nicely now.
cmccabe
response 8 of 10: Mark Unseen   May 9 02:22 UTC 2018

fronttalk broke that link, so you'll just have to manually append the second
line to the first.
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