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tod
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BLM - can one make a solution without identifying the problem?
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Jul 7 16:51 UTC 2020 |
Terry Crews is pointing out the hypocrisy and racism of BLM while Don
Lemon refuses to acknowledge what Terry is conveying.
The statement is simple: Black Lives Matter and need to be saved from
ALL violence. The BLM narrative only wants to point at white people
as perpetrators.
Terry makes a good analogy about the pilots in the 1970's who couldn't
be questioned as many commercial airliners were crashing.
DUI flight was one of the major contributors, btw.
In this case, urban neighborhoods have violent criminals who are
black but get a 'free pass' - in Don Lemon's approach.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=lzR8x_jlGaI&feature=emb_lo
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response 1 of 13:
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Jul 8 14:16 UTC 2020 |
This is a silly argument.
Yes, black on black crime exceeds white-on-black crime, but that's
rather beside the point: the question is, rightly, WHY is the crime
rate higher in the black community? The answer is that it's the
direct result of YEARS of anti-Black discrimination and segregation,
ghettoization, etc, that have created economic and social conditions
that lead to and perpetuate the current state of affairs. White
society has conveniently ignored its part in setting the current
conditions by systematically relegating the black community to
secondary status. Case in point: black kids are more likely to
face disproportionate punishment for the same crime than a white
kid.
It's easy to point fingers at the black community and point out all
its problems. It's much harder to dig a little and ask WHY those
problems exist at all in the first place.
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tod
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Jul 8 16:54 UTC 2020 |
re #1
WHY is the crime
rate higher in the black community?
The crime rate is higher in lower income communities. Lower law enforcement
budgets and less opportunities for income are a formula for crime.
Disproportionate punishment again falls on the lower income community
having less qualified public defense and less than desirable recruitment
of its law enforcement. It's a money thing.
A racist thing? That's a symptom but as Terry Crews points out there is
plenty of finger pointing to go around on cause/perpetrator.
I believe lower income communities are underserved and illserved by their
local elected officials creating a larger impact than peripheral
racial intent by those outside its community. This is from experience
growing up in Detroit where it was dog eat dog politics. The school board
and city council DO NOT CARE. People don't vote logically.
How to fix that? Get thee the hell out of urban decay and poor mental
attitude society. Changing one's democraphic surroundings is literally
the most direct way to change things. Flint MI is a prison, an
institution, and a cancer. It'd be hard to blame it on racism as much
as it has to do with organized crime controlling government.
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papa
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response 3 of 13:
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Jul 8 23:40 UTC 2020 |
resp:2 tod is exactly right.
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tod
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Jul 9 03:00 UTC 2020 |
Conversely, I think it is a sign of short sightedness when people
reply to BLM with "All Lives Matter". It's ok to reaffirm support
to the Black community - just as support for the queer community or
to the Jewish community or any other group. "All Lives Matter" is
passive aggressive to the discussion.
That said, I think the BLM movement is led by charlatans who are
an embarrassment to the Black community.
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papa
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Jul 9 22:12 UTC 2020 |
resp:4
I disagree about "All Lives Matter". It was the shouting down of that slogan
that revealed BLM to be the racist movement that it is.
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tod
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Jul 10 14:27 UTC 2020 |
re #5
It means different things to different supporters.
The "BLM matters more" thing is ridiculous and divisive - but saying it
"matters now" makes sense. The "you can only say BLM" is also divisive.
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walkman
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Jul 10 16:19 UTC 2020 |
"Black lives matter" isn't a Black cause and it wasnt set up by blacks.
Blacklivesmatter.com has a "donate" button which directs you to a DNC
donation site called "act blue":
https://secure.actblue.com/donate/ms_blm_homepage_2019
Here's a piece about actblue.com
https://youtu.be/A89ufCCtUZM
Antifa is behind the looting, riots and arson. Look at the people being
arrested. Look at the faces in the crowds. Most are white. Burning down
black neighborhoods for justice? Ask yourself if white suburban basement
dwellers with their little outlaw costumes looting and burning stores
in black neighborhoods advances the lives of blacks.
Ask yourself why the media pushes so hard to deny that antifa exists.
They literally show up to riots carry antifa flags.
If black lives really mattered to anyone who claims to care, they would
be donating and volunteering for literacy programs and career seminars.
That's how you lift people out of poverty. But the majority just want to
virtue signal.
The media tells us burning down a Wendy's is justice. Once those
businesses are looted and burned, there go the jobs and the access to
goods and services. If you keep them down, they will always vote
Democrat so there's that.
Anyone who disagrees is welcome to debate me.
Or... let's keep it simple. Just start with explaining what the desired
endgame is of the leftist revolution.
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Is saying "all lives matter" hostile?
Think about it from a literal sense.
The emphasis on blame and division is so strong, the idea that being
more inclusive is outrageous or even racist. I find that surreal. It is
really contrarian to be more inclusive?
Remember "I am a man"? It didn't say "Men are black". It was inclusive.
There are scores of people saying "white lives don't matter" on Twitter,
youtube, etc. See the road we are going down?
Can anyone tell me just two things about the recent protests or riots
that furthered the lives of blacks?
Can anyone tell me how corporations with BLM website banners further the
lives of blacks?
How about defending police departments in black neighborhoods? How does
that help black people? Do you think that will help people in need when
their home is robbed or when someone is raped?
Black lives matter right?
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