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twenex
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The End of the Line-ux?
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Nov 3 12:45 UTC 2006 |
Microsoft and Novell have entered into an agreement by which:
1. They agree to cross-licence certain technologies (such as OpenXML)
2. Novell agrees to pay Microsoft a share of the "royalties" from its Linux
sales.
3. Microsoft agree not to go against any user of Novell's Linux products, or
any "non-commercial" (unpaid) Linux developer, for patent infringement.
They are clearly lining up to sue anyone who does NOT use Novell Linux.
Will this kill Linux, finally?
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easlern
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response 1 of 36:
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Nov 3 15:29 UTC 2006 |
I don't get how this would hurt other Linux flavors or why anyone could sue
people who use non-Novell Linux?
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twenex
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response 2 of 36:
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Nov 3 16:06 UTC 2006 |
Because Microsoft is only promising NOT to sue Novell users or people who
DON'T get paid to work on Linux. That rules out anyone from IBM, HP, RedHat...
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nharmon
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response 3 of 36:
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Nov 3 16:43 UTC 2006 |
Oh, this will stop me from ever considering to use SuSE ever again.
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easlern
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response 4 of 36:
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Nov 3 17:44 UTC 2006 |
Why is getting paid to work on Linux illegal?
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ball
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response 5 of 36:
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Nov 3 21:36 UTC 2006 |
Only if Microsoft's word is law.
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easlern
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response 6 of 36:
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Nov 3 21:45 UTC 2006 |
This sounds like an out-of-court settlement of some sort, not a conspiracy
to monopolize the premium Linux market.
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twenex
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response 7 of 36:
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Nov 4 17:46 UTC 2006 |
Re: #5. It may as well be. Look at their army of lawyers.
Re: #3. OK, I can't tell whether that's sarcasm or not.
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herasleftnut
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response 8 of 36:
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Nov 4 18:16 UTC 2006 |
I remember a time when Linux was still outside the mental grasp of people like
nharmon. The era when teenage computer wiz kids were hacking the box. Then
linux dumbdowned the installation and the next thing ya know, we go pinheads
like nate fagging up what was once a decent operating system.
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twenex
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response 9 of 36:
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Nov 4 18:42 UTC 2006 |
Goodness, I'm sorry; I completely forgot to add you to my ignore list. How
could I possibly do such a think to such a moronic, foulmouthed douchebag?
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nharmon
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response 10 of 36:
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Nov 4 23:11 UTC 2006 |
re 8: That is funny because if I remember correctly we discussed this on
M-Net and my first use of Linux predated yours by something like two
years. So, you remembering a time when Linux was outside MY mental grasp
is basically remembering a time when you were oblivious to Linux. Nice try.
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herasleftnut
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response 11 of 36:
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Nov 5 01:46 UTC 2006 |
And you still don't have a clue what goes on dumbass. Do you even have a
concept of what a time sharing system is you fucking retard? Oh wait, you are
still trying to grasp the difference between multi-user and multi-tasking.
Mcnally, shut the fuck up on this. Go back to lubing twenex's ass you queer
ass bitch.
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naftee
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response 12 of 36:
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Nov 5 07:04 UTC 2006 |
dude; it's twenex being the gay douche. mike doesn't have anything to do with
this
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herasleftnut
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response 13 of 36:
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Nov 5 15:55 UTC 2006 |
Yeah and nharmon still uses windows. My machine has been 100% MS Windows free
for a few yrs now. Switching back to a windows partition because you have no
clue how to use the linux box is for people like nhardon.
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twenex
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response 14 of 36:
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Nov 5 16:02 UTC 2006 |
Funny, I can't see a post by mike (mcnally) on this subject at all.
Chalk another one up to leftnut's vivid imagination.
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nharmon
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response 15 of 36:
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Nov 5 17:16 UTC 2006 |
My running windows is not due to ignorance on how to use Linux, but
rather Linux's lack of support for certain computer games. And it is
somewhat funny that my knowledge of Linux is called into question by a
person who only recently learned what LAMP stood for. I'll tell you
what, Chad, why don't you come back when you know how to set up an
e-mail server in Linux that would comply with Sarbanes-Oxley. Or a
SARBOX-compliant instant messaging server in Linux...or a
SARBOX-compliant internet proxy server using Squid. Do you even know
what Sarbanes-Oxley is you floor sweeping moron?
Seriously, your niche knowledge of Unix programming would hardly cut it
in a professional business environment. For my job I need to know how to
integrate many different systems. That includes getting a copier machine
that only speaks LDAP to work with Active Directory, backing up multiple
VMs on a SAN, or programming a Cisco switch to use 802.1x port
authenticatio. This stuff is worlds above your pondering whether perl
uses quicksort or mergesort, so stop thinking you know everything,
because you really don't.
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gull
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response 16 of 36:
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Nov 5 21:58 UTC 2006 |
I think this is a move on Novell's part to eliminate the risk of a
settlement that could hurt them later. In business, perceived risk can
be very important, whether it's a real threat or not. This also lets
Novell tell their clients that they can be sure their license won't be
questioned by Microsoft later.
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twenex
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response 17 of 36:
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Nov 5 22:00 UTC 2006 |
Indeed. And once Microsoft/Novell have wiped the floor w/ every other Linux
vendor, MS can buy Novell and bury Linux.
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herasleftnut
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response 18 of 36:
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Nov 6 00:11 UTC 2006 |
Nate, you fucking dumbass hick,
You can use a copier machine? Wow. And tell me again companies like Microsoft
or IBM won't give you the time a day again? Or maybe more to the point, why
hasn't steve or spooked asked you for help since you know so much 'real world'
stuff? I'm sure grex must be missing a person of your caliber on the staff.
I'm sure you are light yrs ahead of Cross (who was/is) on the grex staff. Btw,
there is no such word as 'authenticatio' you fucking twit.
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mcnally
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response 19 of 36:
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Nov 6 01:03 UTC 2006 |
re #17: Do most Linux users get it from a "Linux vendor"? Redhat and
SuSe/Novell could disappear tomorrow and I have a feeling Linux would
keep going strong.
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herasleftnut
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response 20 of 36:
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Nov 6 01:13 UTC 2006 |
I get Linux from your mom every night. Yeah yeah yeah. Give it to me baby,
uh uh, uh uh.
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bollocks
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Nov 6 01:30 UTC 2006 |
Re: #19. Well that depends on who you believe. My guess is "no", but then
having a commercial Linux vendor (RedHat) behind it certainly hasn't hurt
Linux. I suspect that without Novell and RedHat, a lot of the vendors that
are "into" supporting Linux would suddenly find reasons not to.
Of course, it could be that Mark Shuttleworth now ramps up efforts to make his
for-profit venture, Canonical, more high profile. But if RedHat goes under
because of customers' patent worries and Ubuntu also refuses to pay
Microsoft's protection racket game, will that do anyone any good?
BTW this is me, twenex, posting under this account because my normal account
won't reach a shell prompt for some reason.
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bollocks
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response 22 of 36:
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Nov 6 02:14 UTC 2006 |
On the upside, mike, at least it gives me an excuse to test Ubuntu, since I'm
ditching that SuSE stuff.
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twenex
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response 23 of 36:
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Nov 6 03:00 UTC 2006 |
As some of you may know, I run Gentoo Linux on one of my boxen. (Yes, Remmers,
boxen.) I just had a look on the Gentoo forums. Interestingly, there's hardly
any discussion on this issue at all.
Hmm.
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herasleftnut
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response 24 of 36:
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Nov 6 05:35 UTC 2006 |
You're a fucking moron.
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