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orinoco
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The "Age Drift" Item
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Nov 8 16:52 UTC 1997 |
Just excising some drift from the Prog Rock item...
#18 of 25: by Ken Josenhans (krj) on Fri, Nov 7, 1997 (19:30):
I have a theory which holds that everyone ends up hating the music
they listened to when they were sixteen years old. When I was sixteen,
I listened to Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, ELP, and Yes. So I'll just
sort of sit this one out... :)
#19 of 25: by Jon the Arborean (lumen) on Fri, Nov 7, 1997 (19:53):
I ain't everyone :P
#20 of 25: by Gratuitous Saxon Violins (orinoco) on Fri, Nov 7, 1997 (22:51):
Hmm...well, I must say, Ken, you did have good taste as a 16-year-old.
<wonders what went wrong :) >
#21 of 25: by Mike McNally (mcnally) on Fri, Nov 7, 1997 (23:15):
re #19: give it time..
I certainly can't serve as a counter-example to Ken's postulate
and believe that it makes a certain amount of sense..
#22 of 25: by Cricket (teflon) on Fri, Nov 7, 1997 (23:46):
As a sixteen year old, I dare say that I like the stuff well enough now.
I certainly hope that doesn't change, 'though I dare say it might if I
go and over-play the stuff. The main problem with that theory is this:
I like almost every kind of music, which means, according to your
postulate, that I will become an exclusively Rap/R&B fan when I'm older.
Now, it is concievable that I might grow to like them, but dislike the
other stuff? Not likely.
Go forth and discuss...
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diznave
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response 1 of 35:
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Nov 9 05:05 UTC 1997 |
Hey Ken, we listened to some of the same music when we were 16. I still enjoy
the groups you mentioned, but unfortunately, at 16 I was also listening to
crap (IMHO) like Boston, AC/DC, Kansas, Van Halen, Blue Oyster Cult, Lynard
Skynard, Molly Hatchet, and the Eagles <Dave braces himself for the critical
onslaught regarding his opinion of the Eagles>.
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orinoco
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response 2 of 35:
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Nov 9 16:40 UTC 1997 |
No, I'm in full agreement with you on that one.
(Does that mean I'll be liking them in 20 years? Eek!)
Of course, I'm still not _technically_ 16 yet - 7 more hours to go - so I've
still got time to find some crap to listen to so I can hate it later.
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anderyn
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response 3 of 35:
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Nov 9 22:02 UTC 1997 |
Erm geeze. I still love Blue Oyster Cult! And I don't think of them as
crap at all. Though, of course, I was introduced to them as an adult,
in the early eighties, and so I guess they're not a sixteen-year-old thang
for me. I was sixteen in the early seventies, and hated disco then, hate
it now. I don't think I listened to much music then besides some sappy
Paul Anka, Elvis, and -- oh *blush* -- Leonard Nimoy. Still like Elvis,
though.
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teflon
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response 4 of 35:
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Nov 10 02:33 UTC 1997 |
Whew. I was afraid I was the only BOC fan around, and I would have to
defend them single handedly against an onslaught of folks who think it's
"crap". (Watch what you insult Grr. Grr.) I dunno. This is probably
the wrong item for me to be in, and I should come back to it in about 5
years.
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anderyn
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response 5 of 35:
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Nov 10 14:31 UTC 1997 |
No, no, stay! Any BOC fan is cool by me!
Funnily enoguh, last night what should paly on Dr. Demento but "The
Hobbit" as inimitably sung by Leonard Nimoy? Grin.
Rhiannon has stolen my _Workshop of the Telescopes_ double BOC
disk and won't give it back, too! (Of course, she IS sixteen, so I guess
that doesn't count.)
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lumen
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response 6 of 35:
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Nov 11 05:56 UTC 1997 |
You mean "The Ballad of Bilbo Baggins"? Good song :)
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diznave
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response 7 of 35:
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Nov 12 17:54 UTC 1997 |
Okay, let me rephrase what I said. I recently (in the past year) listened to
a Blue Oyster Cult album. It was one of the worst things I've ever heard. That
said, I've heard *very* little Blue Oyster Cult, ever. Way back when I first
heard them (beginning of the 80's), I only had one or two of their albums.
So my BOC exposure is extremely limited. I think _Don't Fear The Reaper_ and
_Godzilla_ were the only two tunes that got played regularly on the radio.
What is your favorite BOC album? Which albums would you recommend?
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teflon
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response 8 of 35:
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Nov 14 02:21 UTC 1997 |
Well, I don't have a whole lot of their stuff, but 'Secret Treaties' is really
cool. Let me ask you, was the album you listened to a live recording?
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diznave
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response 9 of 35:
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Nov 14 11:16 UTC 1997 |
No, it was the one that had a kind of dinasaur on the cover. I want to say
the title is _Tyrannosaurus Rex_, but I know that's not right. It sounded like
a studio album to me.
Ok, I'll check out _Secret Treaties_.
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teflon
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response 10 of 35:
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Nov 14 19:39 UTC 1997 |
right. Now that we've got that settled, does anyone have anything to say on
topic? I know that when I was a pre-teen, I was a fan of a lot of the junk
that was being played on the radio... Most of it strikes me as junk now, but
there are some things I still like. Of course, I still enjoy listening to
the radio now... They always play the same stuff over and over, it's like
having a tape player.
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krj
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response 11 of 35:
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Nov 23 08:17 UTC 1997 |
I evolved my initial theory, that most people come to hate the music
they liked when they were 16, after discovering that a friend who
adored Jefferson Airplane when she was 16 (and they were a current band)
could no longer stand to listen to them.
Most of y'all aren't old enough to test my hypothesis yet.
It's been interesting watching further "age drift" in myself.
Becoming an opera fan at the age of 30 was certainly an unexpected
turn; of course, dating a singer can make an opera enthusiast out of
anyone.
I also had a shtick I was doing for a while, about how I was giving up
on rock music for my 40th birthday. While there was some exxageration
in my display, there was also a core of truth to it. The last time
I found a new rock band who I loved was in 1990; since then I've wasted
piles of money and time chasing in hopes of finding another one,
and I think it is just time to give up. I'm somewhat sad about this,
but I'm also a realist.
It's been observed that the age of the audience for the alt.country
stuff is weighted quite a bit older than the rock audience.
Some people argue that country, in both the mainstream and alt.
varieties, is more likely to appeal to listeners who have been kicked
around a bit by life and love.
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scott
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response 12 of 35:
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Nov 23 13:28 UTC 1997 |
I've met a lot of people who are *still* stuck on the music they
listened to in high school.
Relevant Quote from a bar musician:
"People know what they like, and they like what they know".
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omni
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response 13 of 35:
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Nov 23 21:46 UTC 1997 |
re 11. I'll be 38 in a few days. I still have the records (i.e vinyl)
that I had when I was 16. Can't really say I hate them, but I don't play them
because I lack a viable platform (OK, I do have a record player. Just cant
stand all them scratches and pops. CD's ruined me!) I do like the music.
I have Cat Stevens, Chicago, Chuck Mangione, Doc Severenson, Journey,
Fleetwood Mac, Heart, Queen (no comments) and a few other forgettable acts.
Still play them once in a while.
I would rather listen to Bob Dylan. I should have listened to him when I
was 16, but didn't and now, I have a lot of discovery to do.
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lumen
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Nov 26 06:44 UTC 1997 |
Why no comments on Queen? Forgettable acts? A few that you mentioned are
very noteworthy-- I would have to say Queen was *very* influential, and
Fleetwood Mac did make an impressive appearance recently. Cat Stevens-- he
doesn't call himself that anymore-- is still a noted figure in folk rock/folk
pop-- I've been learning the guitar, and a few of his songs are in my
instruction book as examples (and the author is British).
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omni
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Nov 26 17:14 UTC 1997 |
You're right. Queen was very influential, and they did have a hell of an
act, which is why I bought 2 of thier albums. Nothing wrong with Fleetwood
Mac, either. Like I said, these records problems are not age, It's mainly
sound. If I had them all on CD, I'd be a very happy camper.
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lumen
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response 16 of 35:
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Nov 26 19:27 UTC 1997 |
Oh-- gotcha. The NIN vinyl item had a discussion on LPs in general. I was
suspecting it was the sound quality, but it didn't seem entirely clear.
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krj
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response 17 of 35:
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Nov 26 20:01 UTC 1997 |
Jim -- how do you see Queen as "influential?"
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orinoco
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response 18 of 35:
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Nov 26 23:18 UTC 1997 |
Well, I'd hazard that any band that becomes famous is also influential to some
extent regardless. I don't really know enough about Queen to comment...
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mcnally
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response 19 of 35:
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Nov 27 05:47 UTC 1997 |
re #17: Yeah, I was kinda wondering that myself but decided to let it
pass because while it's entirely possible they had a huge influence on
many groups the types of groups they'd've influenced are not ones I'd
be likely to be listening to.. Still, I'd be interested in hearing the
names of a few acts just to see if I recognize any of them..
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omni
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response 20 of 35:
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Nov 27 16:48 UTC 1997 |
I'd say they brought the synthesyser into wide use, and of course they
proved that a long song (B. Rhapsody) could be as popluar as a short one. Also
according to PopUpVideo, they brought the art of the video into the
mainstream. So on those counts, Queen was successfully influential.
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orinoco
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response 21 of 35:
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Nov 27 19:33 UTC 1997 |
I had thought of Bohemian Rhapsody as more of a novelty song than anything
else.
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omni
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response 22 of 35:
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Nov 28 03:16 UTC 1997 |
Long songs are generally called "shit songs" because it allows the DJ to
go to the can while it's playing. Pardoni mi Italiano.
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orinoco
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response 23 of 35:
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Nov 28 18:05 UTC 1997 |
<g> Never heard that one before.
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omni
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response 24 of 35:
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Nov 28 18:57 UTC 1997 |
I have a few friends who used to be DJ's.
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