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orinoco
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Rare music makes me angry! (looking for "Girl at her Volcano")
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Jun 27 17:14 UTC 1999 |
I'd been keeping an eye out for Rickie Lee Jones' _Girl at her Volcano_ of
late, on the basis that it's the one album of hers that we don't own. The
other day, puttering around the web, I found out that the album was released
on vinyl during the early 80s and has been out of print for quite some time.
It may also have been some sort of limited edition release or some such.
So...does anyone who was conscious during the early 80s have a copy of this
album? (I believe it's a 7" record). Barring that, where might I look to
find a copy of it for sale? I'm not in the habit of buying vinyl used, so
I don't know where to start looking...
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scott
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response 1 of 34:
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Jun 27 17:36 UTC 1999 |
You might try her website, if she has one. Even if it isn't posted, maybe
it could be if the fans were vocal enough about it.
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krj
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response 2 of 34:
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Jun 27 19:49 UTC 1999 |
I think "Girl At Her Volcano" is 10", not 7". There was a minor craze
for ten-inch 33 1/3 releases right around 1980. Have you checked the
local used music shops, especially Encore? Encore and PJs still seem
to be doing good business in vinyl.
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krj
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response 3 of 34:
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Jun 27 20:00 UTC 1999 |
www.rickieleejones.com says it's available on CD from Japan.
Famously expensive www.cdeurope.com lists two editions for $36-$40,
ouch.
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krj
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response 4 of 34:
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Jun 27 20:05 UTC 1999 |
alta vista search on the album title yields a copy for sale:
http://www.sonicrec.com/rten_1.html
I have no info on this firm.
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krj
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response 5 of 34:
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Jun 27 20:11 UTC 1999 |
and there are other used copies of the original vinyl release
in the $6-$10 range. CD Banzai lists it at two prices (??) around
$30, which is standard for Japan. Apparently there is also a US cassette?
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scott
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response 6 of 34:
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Jun 27 23:46 UTC 1999 |
(You da man, Ken!)
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gnat
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response 7 of 34:
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Jun 28 13:08 UTC 1999 |
Also try GEMM at www.gemm.com. Rarities turn up there every so often.
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orinoco
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response 8 of 34:
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Jun 28 23:26 UTC 1999 |
Yeah, I noticed the Japanese release, but there's no way I'm paying $36 for
it. I checked Wazoo recently; they didn't have it.
(That was Most Impressive, Ken, by the way. I'll check www.sonicrec.com out)
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orinoco
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response 9 of 34:
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Jun 30 22:07 UTC 1999 |
Aha! Victory! Wazoo does have it - two copies, even. They just keep all
their 10" records in a small, well-hidden bin that I never in a million years
would have found if I hadn't _happened_ to stop in again and ask, and they
guy behind the counter hadn't _happened_ to ask me what format the album was
in...
So I've listened through it once, and I'm a little dissappointed, actually.
It's an album of covers, which is always a bad sign with Rickie Lee Jones -
my other least favorite album of hers is her other cover album, _Pop Pop_.
And only after buying the record did I find the note at the bottom that says
the cassette release has an extra track on it that I really would have wanted:
a live recording from her first tour of an otherwise unreleased original.
Ah well... such is life.
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krj
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response 10 of 34:
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Jul 6 21:37 UTC 1999 |
So now that orinoco has found the out-of-print item he was looking for,
I'll drift a bit. The unpleasant reality is that music has to go out
of print, to make room in the stores and distribution channels for
new releases. 20 years ago, I read that the rule of thumb was that
an album would be kept in print as long as it sold about 5000 copies
per year. Even into the late LP era of the 1980s, I generally found that
most albums could be found up to five years after their release,
no matter how obscure they were.
The business seems to be churning much faster now, and many
discs which are disappointing sellers seem to go away in about a year.
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mcnally
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response 11 of 34:
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Jul 7 00:32 UTC 1999 |
That's *currently* the "unpleasant reality." When (if) digital
music distribution ever becomes commonplace, it'll be much more
practical for stuff to stay 'in print' forever..
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orinoco
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response 12 of 34:
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Jul 7 20:11 UTC 1999 |
I recall hearing that Folkways keeps the last copy of each album they take
out of print, and that they'll make tape copies for people on request. Many
small/local bands will do the same if you beg nicely. Obviously, this isn't
a viable way to go for larger/more commercial operations, though.
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otaking
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response 13 of 34:
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Jul 8 19:27 UTC 1999 |
I recently discovered that most of David Bowie's albums are out of
circulation. I'd have to order most of them from Eurpoe or Japan. Although
I like Bowie's music, I don;t want to pay $20-30 per CD. Oh well, I guess it's
off to the used CD stores.
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gnat
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response 14 of 34:
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Jul 9 00:37 UTC 1999 |
Yeah, Ryko stopped releasing them. I found "Station to Station" in
a cut-out bin for $1, though, so they shouldn't be too hard to find.
I'm really pissed that, as soon as I start really liking Vic Chesnutt,
all of his albums except his two most recent ones go out of print!
Bah!
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tpryan
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response 15 of 34:
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Jul 9 03:22 UTC 1999 |
Borders Outlet, on Ford Road in Canton, MI seems to get discontinued
Ryko disks.
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mcnally
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response 16 of 34:
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Jul 9 18:09 UTC 1999 |
Ryko also seems to dump a lot of cutouts at Best Buy from time to time..
If anyone finds a stash of the Bowie discs marked way down, please let me
know. I've got most of the ones I know I like but I'd be willing to take
a flyer on some of the other stuff if the price was right..
Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it otaking.. His stuff was out of print
once before (before Rykodisk) and got picked up -- I'm sure it'll soon be
carried by some other distributor
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orinoco
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Jul 9 22:31 UTC 1999 |
I find it hard to believe that a big name musician like Bowie would have most
of his albums out of print for any length of time. Then again, stranger
things have happened.
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mcnally
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response 18 of 34:
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Jul 10 03:07 UTC 1999 |
I wonder if this is part of the great Bowie financial restructuring
(anyone remember last year's Bowie bond offering?)
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krj
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response 19 of 34:
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Jul 10 04:41 UTC 1999 |
My recollection is that Ryko ended up with the Bowie catalog because
of Bowie's ego... the story I recall is that Bowie was demanding that
his back catalog be sold at full price, a status afforded very
few artists -- the Beatles, Led Zepplin, and I don't think there
are many others. Ryko was willing to meet those terms. The deal
was for a fixed period of time; I don't know why it was not renewed.
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orinoco
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response 20 of 34:
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Jul 10 18:07 UTC 1999 |
("last year's Bowie bond offering"? hrm?)
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mcnally
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response 21 of 34:
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Jul 11 03:30 UTC 1999 |
Bowie made music news last year by offering a bond issue of his
projected earnings for the next N years.. The bonds were actually
very highly rated by financial analysts -- apparently the Bowie
catalog still pulls in a lot of money.
Speculation was that the offering was prompted by Bowie's desire
to move to another country where tax laws were less favorable --
the bond issue would supposedly allow him to take the taxation
under the system of his then current country of residence and thus
not incur a big hit from taxation wherever he was moving..
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orinoco
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response 22 of 34:
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Jul 12 21:55 UTC 1999 |
Wow....
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goose
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response 23 of 34:
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Jul 17 03:37 UTC 1999 |
The stuff us mortal never have to worry about....
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bmoran
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response 24 of 34:
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Aug 1 11:58 UTC 1999 |
I recently found out that the entire 'English Beat' catalogue is out of
print. All I want is a copy of the first album so I can have their cover
of Smokey Robinson's "Tears of a Clown". The guy at Wazoo said the last
one they had sold for $60(US). Yipes! Well, maybe someone will pick up on
that one too.
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