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scott
Alternative Drum Corps... anybody interested in creating one? Mark Unseen   Jan 11 02:02 UTC 1997

OK!

I've been mulling this over for a while now.  I sort of like drum circles,
except that everything is real 4/4 (and occasionally 3/4) and not very
interesting.  

What I'd like to do is do a tribal drum group that works in odd time
signatures, and a lot more back-and-forth than just everybody going "boomboom
boomboomboomboom...".  This would naturally take some practice and discipline,
but ought to be a lot more fun for people like me.

If it works out, I plan to do some Unauthorized Entertaining at the Art Fair
this summer.  ;)

Another aspect will be to construct instruments as cheaply and crudely as
possible.  ;)  OK, that's optional.  But I was at a customer site this week
and saw some huge PVC pipe (maybe 16" in diameter!) being used as a roof
drain.  That stuff would be a blast to work with.

Maybe like the Kodo Drummers meet King Crimson?

Who's interested?
87 responses total.
kewy
response 1 of 87: Mark Unseen   Jan 11 16:02 UTC 1997

that sounds like it would be pretty cool, but i'm afraid i know nothing about
the subject:(
raven
response 2 of 87: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 21:47 UTC 1997

I would be interested but probably would have to be shown where to place
the baeats until I got used to non 4/4 time signatures.  I am willing
to learn and have a dumbek that sounds pretty cool if I do say so myself.
scott
response 3 of 87: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 01:51 UTC 1997

OK, here's your first exercise:
Work on 5/8 time.  You can do this by tapping your hands as follows:
Left     Right
tap
         tap
tap     
         tap
         tap
(repeat until you don't have to think about it anymore, and feel free to
change left/right).

I did this a lot and it really works.  You can extend it to 7/8 and beyond.

A fun thing to work on in 4/4 is to play the "off" 1/8th notes... 
if you count "one, two, three, four" you can do 1/8th notes by counting 
"one and two and three and four and...".  Play with somebody else (or a CD
or a metronome) and while they do regular stuff, you just play on the "and".

When I do go to "normal" (heh) drum circles, I'll work on playing the off
beats a lot.  It's sort of hypnotic to play normally with lots of other drums,
but even more hypnotic to work the off beats, since you have to simultaneously
follow the main pulse and avoid getting caught by it.  :)
raven
response 4 of 87: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 03:55 UTC 1997

Cool thanks!!!!  Ummm that's easy if I did it right. :-)
scott
response 5 of 87: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 12:06 UTC 1997

Good start, then you can work on doing it really fast, and then try leaving
off one of the hands.
eskarina
response 6 of 87: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 21:32 UTC 1997

Makes me feel sorry I won't be in town for the art fair this summer...
<sigh>
scott
response 7 of 87: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 22:35 UTC 1997

Last summer was the first time in a few years that I actually had a chance
to hang out a bit.  It was pretty fun, more fun than I would have thought.
The key was finding the real whacko performances by locals.
kewy
response 8 of 87: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 00:32 UTC 1997

yeah, art fair can be fun.. even tho everyone local complains about the
crowds, i think it can be pretty cool:)
robh
response 9 of 87: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 15:47 UTC 1997

Is this a good place to point out that the Kodo Drummers will
be in town on February 25th?
eskarina
response 10 of 87: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 02:32 UTC 1997

I dunno, last year was the first time I'd been in town for it in two or three
years, so I really was looking forward to going and really enjoyed the time
I spent there.  I don't think I looked at much art... most of my fun was
listening.
scott
response 11 of 87: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 14:12 UTC 1997

("art" is not the reason to hang out at the "Art Fair")
kewy
response 12 of 87: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 15:07 UTC 1997

exactly...

eskarina
response 13 of 87: Mark Unseen   Jan 19 16:57 UTC 1997

And then there's always those unintentionally hilarious booths on the
non-profit street...
orinoco
response 14 of 87: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 23:46 UTC 1997

This sounds *very* interesting, scott...as a fellow King Crimson fan, *and*
a fan of the Kodo drummers, I'm intrigued.  Do tell me if you ever put this
thing into practice.
I did join a drumming group at Community some time ago, and was dissappointed
in what I saw--first off, the very simplistic rhythms you mentioned, and
second off, too little learning of new rhythms or techniques.  Just boom boom
boom.
scott
response 15 of 87: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 12:10 UTC 1997

I'm too busy right now to do anything on this, but stay tuned...
orinoco
response 16 of 87: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 14:16 UTC 1997

Btw, where would one get some of that PVC pipe the size of Nebraska?
scott
response 17 of 87: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 14:30 UTC 1997

I haven't found that out yet.  Might try asking at Hutzel's, since I noticed
some big elbows when I was there picking up a furnace part a couple months
ago.
bmoran
response 18 of 87: Mark Unseen   Apr 14 18:35 UTC 1997

Ann Arbor Pipe and Supply on South State St. or D&C Plumbing on Jackson. 
grimaldi
response 19 of 87: Mark Unseen   May 14 00:29 UTC 1997

Hey.. It may seem a lil late or whatever.. But I'm game fer a percussive
circle.. I'm gonna be in our schools drum line come next yer more than likely
and I'm talking about joining the percussion ensemble. Sounds tacky.. But..
From what I've seen my buddy Fred write for them and listen. After taking
popular music. It really kicks ass..
        Drop me a line.. anything percussive has got my interest.. being a
sousaphone in Marching Band and pretty much being consider percussive by the
other dimwitted sections. So sue me.. we've got a kick ass tuba sections..
which will be marching at least 10 from my estimates come this falls marching
season.. we'll be out full force.. whether or not or team only wins one game
like last year..
                        Yer musical moron and tuba guru,
                                Grimmy, the man with the big lips who knows
how ta use em. ;)
orinoco
response 20 of 87: Mark Unseen   May 16 21:37 UTC 1997

Well, I don't know that I have any more time or energy that scott does on this
one, but it looks like we have a decent number of interested people.  Who is
still interested?  If we have enough, I might stop waiting for scott and try
to get this together myself...
kewy
response 21 of 87: Mark Unseen   May 30 18:51 UTC 1997

i think it could be interesting, but i don't have a whole lot of skill... i
guess that's what you could call never really playing a percussion instrument.
lumen
response 22 of 87: Mark Unseen   Aug 15 02:38 UTC 1997

Whoa!  I didn't know you played the tuba, grimaldi!  You rock!
*sigh*  reminds me of how I aged out of the d&b corps about two years ago :(
orinoco
response 23 of 87: Mark Unseen   Aug 15 15:34 UTC 1997

d&b...drum and bagpipe?  dog-whistle and bassoon?  dandelion and blender?
bmoran
response 24 of 87: Mark Unseen   Aug 15 16:11 UTC 1997

Dunn & Bradstreet. It's the music of Amerika!
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