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banzai
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elm questions
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Jul 12 23:10 UTC 1993 |
I'll apoligize in advance if these questions have allready been asked,
but none of the subjects said anything about elm help.
How do I have elm include a signature in the mail? [usually you
just make a .signature file and the put "reomtesig = .signature", but
that dosen't work here].
And how do you set elm up to automatically save email you've sent to
the recipent's mailfile in the "Mail" directory? [I think it's
"save = ON" or something like that, anyways, I tried it, didn't work.]
Thanks in advance.
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mju
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response 1 of 59:
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Jul 13 03:27 UTC 1993 |
"remotesig" works a lot better if you spell it correctly. :-)
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robh
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response 2 of 59:
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Jul 13 04:32 UTC 1993 |
Try "remotesignature". That works for me.
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rcurl
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response 3 of 59:
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Jul 13 04:50 UTC 1993 |
Let's go back a little - to unix for dummies. What does "remotesignature"
do, and exactly where does one put it, how, and invoke it? (It is not
*in* Unix for Dummies - know theyself, it is said.)
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jared
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response 4 of 59:
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Jul 13 07:50 UTC 1993 |
remotesignature is the name of the file that is used for offsite mail.
On netmeg I have a 5 line remote signature, and a one line local sig.
the remote lists all my e-mail addresses, my phone number, full name, etc..
while my local just lists my name, and phone number.
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davel
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response 5 of 59:
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Jul 13 12:48 UTC 1993 |
Rane, you would put a line of the form
remotesignature = path
(where path is a pathname for your signature file) in the file
/u/rcurl/.elm/elmrc
For example, the line in my file is
remotesignature = $HOME/.elm/.remotesignature
(since $HOME expands to the path for my home directory, and I put my
remote signature in a file called .remotesignature inside my .elm
directory). The equivalent line for my local signature is
localsignature = $HOME/.elm/.localsignature
The parameters on the left of the equals signs are keywords for elm when
elm reads your elmrc file as it comes up. The fact that I used the same
names (with the leading dot) as the filenames is purely for my convenience;
you can use any legal filename anywhere you have rights to write (& read) a
file. You could even do something dumb like
localsignature = /etc/motd
if your purpose were to be weird instead of to provide information. (That
*does* seem to be the purpose of some signatures, after all!)
Somewhere around grex there's some doc on the elmrc file. I never can
find it when I want it, but you can use the find command.
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mju
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response 6 of 59:
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Jul 13 16:25 UTC 1993 |
Try /usr/local/lib/elm/doc.
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davel
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response 7 of 59:
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Jul 13 20:52 UTC 1993 |
Thanks. I remembered /usr/local & got lost after that.
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banzai
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response 8 of 59:
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Jul 13 21:07 UTC 1993 |
Ah. "signature" instead of "sig" Got it. (The newer elms just use "sig")
So how about the second question?
Thanks!
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robh
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response 9 of 59:
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Jul 14 05:15 UTC 1993 |
According to /usr/local/lib/elm/elmrc.samp :
savename = ON
will save to a file with the sender's name.
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rcurl
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response 10 of 59:
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Jul 14 05:36 UTC 1993 |
I need Chap 7, part "safely asking stupid questions ", from UNIX Without
Words. I did not understand anything from the answers to my question(s)
in #3. You see, I don't know what a "signature file" is; in fact, I don't
know what a "signature" is in this context. I presume that I don't use
one, which has not caused me any problem (that I know of), so I presume I
don't need one. So why am I asking about it? That's the strange thing
about working with computers - one is always tempted to learn about
something that one has no known use for.
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remmers
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response 11 of 59:
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Jul 14 11:51 UTC 1993 |
A "signature file" is a small text file that, if you have one, is appended
to the end of your off-site mail messages and usenet news postings.
Typically,people use it to give their name, email address, company
affiliation, and often put in some more or less clever aphorism, witticism,
or ANSI graphics as well.
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davel
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response 12 of 59:
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Jul 14 12:14 UTC 1993 |
John, in far too many cases it's a *large* text file.
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rcurl
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response 13 of 59:
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Jul 14 13:21 UTC 1993 |
So its an automatically appended "header" or "footer"? I've seen those.
They usually take up too much space, and really aren't needed (since
the return e-mail address is always present). Guess I'll pass.
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robh
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response 14 of 59:
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Jul 14 14:11 UTC 1993 |
Perosnally, I only mind long signatures if they're longer than the actual
message which was sent, i.e. one line of mail and five lines of
sig. I've seen this happen way too often.
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remmers
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response 15 of 59:
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Jul 14 14:31 UTC 1993 |
I believe netiquette is that sig. files should be limited to 4 lines.
Not everybody respects that guideline.
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davel
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response 16 of 59:
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Jul 14 20:11 UTC 1993 |
It's a footer. And I've been told that it's a good idea (for remote stuff)
because the automatically-generated return path may not actually get mail
back to you. Or something of the sort.
When you see sigs running around 10 or 15 lines, over & over from frequent
posters, you kind of get tired of people trying to be clever.
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popcorn
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response 17 of 59:
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Jul 14 22:44 UTC 1993 |
This response has been erased.
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mju
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response 18 of 59:
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Jul 15 03:24 UTC 1993 |
The Usenet software we are running here will only include the first
four lines of your .signature, even if there are more.
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davel
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response 19 of 59:
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Jul 15 13:57 UTC 1993 |
I assume that's on *outgoing* stuff, right? Sometimes I wish there were
a similar function on incoming stuff.
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mju
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response 20 of 59:
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Jul 16 01:09 UTC 1993 |
Right. Of course, there's nothing that the news software can do if
you read your .signature into the editor manually, rather than
letting it be automatically appended.
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jared
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response 21 of 59:
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Jul 16 06:24 UTC 1993 |
Yeah.. I hate that 4 line limit.. it's on netmeg too, and screwed me up
when I wanted to have a 5 line sig. :-/
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remmers
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response 22 of 59:
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Jul 16 06:32 UTC 1993 |
No, it set you straight. :)
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ecy
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response 23 of 59:
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Jul 22 11:35 UTC 1993 |
According to #9 savename = ON should work. According to every time I run
elm, it doesn't. What path should I have it save to? I've tried several
variations off of /h1b/u/ecy/Mail and none of them work. Pardon me,
when I send mail I get the error message 'Unable to save to (whatever path
I've specified)' This message appears under the block where you are asked
if you want to Send, Forget, Edit. So, what am I doing wrong?
Next question. Any ideas why I would loose cc:ed messages, especially
when I check mailq when I leave elm, and the letters I just sent are
sitting there (outside party, and myself)?
Thanks.
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robh
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response 24 of 59:
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Jul 22 11:40 UTC 1993 |
One thing you can try is to ditch the /h1b from the beginning of
your path name. It's not technically correct to use it. Try
/u/ecy/Mail and see what happens.
Worst comes to worst, check out the documentation files in
/usr/local/lib/elm/doc. They can tell you far more than I could.
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