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popcorn
Welcome and some Picospan basics Mark Unseen   Nov 2 05:40 UTC 1992

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popcorn
response 1 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 2 05:46 UTC 1992

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popcorn
response 2 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 2 06:03 UTC 1992

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daes
response 3 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 14:12 UTC 1992

Is there any easy way to forget linked items in conferences?

Ideally, I'd like to have some way to say "Forget <conf> <item>" to
forget the item in the least appropriate conf.
keats
response 4 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 14:43 UTC 1992

go to the conference where you don't want to see the item, find the item
number (by using "browse"), and then type "forget <item number>" at the
picospan prompt.
remmers
response 5 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 18:29 UTC 1992

Or you can edit your participation file for the conference directly,
putting a -1 in the 2nd field of the line for the item in question.
popcorn
response 6 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 04:16 UTC 1992

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tsty
response 7 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 08:32 UTC 1992

What is the arithmetic to use at the Respond prompt to see a group
of responses which are not the last ##, nor a single response. I've
tried the    nn-xx  and receive   Bad parameters near "-"  as a
diagnostic. Let me try an    only nn-xx and see what happens.
tsty
response 8 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 08:32 UTC 1992

same thing, hmmmmmm.
remmers
response 9 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 12:12 UTC 1992

Hmmm...  I misread the first point in #6 as 'Type "enter"' rather than
"Hit Enter"...

Actually, typing "enter" is something you can do at the "Respond or pass?".
It lets you enter a new item, but when you've finished, it takes you back
to the "Respond or pass?" prompt at the item your were reading.

The intent of this was probably to encourage people to channel drift into
a new item, but I don't think many users know about it.  Maybe if the
prompt said "Respond, enter new item, or pass"...

When I first started using Picospan, several years ago, the prompt said
"Respond, forget, or pass".  The "forget" was dropped because people
thought it was anti-social.  (You can still do "forget", of course.)
kentn
response 10 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 10 17:15 UTC 1992

My problem with breaking out of a response in mid-stream and then hitting
"enter" at the "Respond or pass" prompt is that the item does not get
marked as read.  We discussed this about a year ago.  I've been ctrl-c'ing
out and then typing "last" to see the last response on the item (hoping it
is isn't a long one).  That seems to mark the item as seen.   I think
there were some other ways to do the same thing but I can't remember them
now.
tsty
response 11 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 02:26 UTC 1992

And also "Respond, forget, or pass" is the (anti-social) part of Confer(tm).
   
   sfsf
popcorn
response 12 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 04:23 UTC 1992

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tsty
response 13 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 04:52 UTC 1992

Agreed, inelegant but functional. Just looking for a better way ...
daes
response 14 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 15:42 UTC 1992

I wish there was a better way to track all those
linked items.  I hate having totry to keep track of them
manually.

popcorn
response 15 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 14:30 UTC 1992

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davel
response 16 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 15:30 UTC 1992

I know what *I* would like, & it shouldn't be *too* hard: when I read
a linked item in one conference, it marks it as read for me in any other
conferences as well.  So I can read the new stuff in either place (not
forget it) but only once.

(Was that the kind of thing you meant, Dave?)
popcorn
response 17 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 14 17:08 UTC 1992

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remmers
response 18 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 02:56 UTC 1992

That would actually be quite cumbersome and expensive to do
without a major overhaul of the way Picospan organizes files.
Pico just uses Unix hard links to implement linked items, and Unix
maintains no list of what links there are to a file.  So every
time you read something new in a linked item, Picospan would have
to search through *all* items in *all* conferences to find the
links, then update every one of the affected participation files.
That's a lot of data processing.
rcurl
response 19 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 22:06 UTC 1992

I've just signed on with ProComm for the first time. It dials, I get
CONNECT, but then I get some garbage, and things hang up. By experiment,
I found that a "shift %" releases, and then its fine. There must be
something wrong in my Modem or Terminal Setup. Any suggestions?
davel
response 20 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 22:38 UTC 1992

Hmm.  I use ProComm (2 different flavors) all the time.  What terminal are
you emulating?  (I use ansi, for which I must use 8N instead of 7E.  This
doesn't always produce the optimum results for things like vi, but it's
easier for me than something else (for obscure reasons).)  I often do get
some garbage before the login prompt.
rcurl
response 21 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 16 01:22 UTC 1992

I set it to the VT-100 emulation: no reason, except that's what Merit
likes. (I know little about these protocol matters - just want what
works.) I wouldn't mind the garbage - its the hang-up I'd like to get
rid of (not that "%" will break a finger ;)).
rcurl
response 22 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 16 01:27 UTC 1992

Oh yes - I get garbage and a hangup after "quit" too, and it take "%" to
continue.
popcorn
response 23 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 16 01:28 UTC 1992

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popcorn
response 24 of 556: Mark Unseen   Nov 16 01:31 UTC 1992

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