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mcpoz
URL question Mark Unseen   Jul 25 01:38 UTC 1996

Can someone either give me some basic info - or point me to a source of info
regarding URL's? 
        a)  What does URL mean?
        b)  If I want to post something which can be found by search engines,
           is my URL "http://www.cyberspace.com"   ?        
Thanks
33 responses total.
draven
response 1 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 02:06 UTC 1996

URL is Universal Resource Locator.  It's a standard format for all
Internet resources, including (but not limited to) WWW, FTP, Usenet
news, telnet, and Gopher.

   If you put up a Web page here, people on the Internet could access it
using the URL "http://grex.cyberspace.org/~mcpoz".
mcpoz
response 2 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 02:40 UTC 1996

Ok, thanks.  I have made a "prototype" homepage, can you tell me how I can
access it to edit it?  

Thanks again.
ajax
response 3 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 03:24 UTC 1996

Your home page and other web page documents are stored in a directory
called "www" in your home directory.  To edit the prototype home page,
then, you'd type "!pico www/homepage.html", or whatever editor you 
want to use.

I access Grex home pages by starting with "http://www.cyberspace.org",
rather than "grex.cyberspace.org", though both seem to work.  Is one
better (e.g., likely to be around longer) than the other?
draven
response 4 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 04:08 UTC 1996

Hmm... looks like Grex redirects www to grex.  In that case, i would use
www.  If Grex ever gets the funding and bandwidth to set-up a seperate Web
server, it will use www.cyberspace.org, which would cause problems for
those using grex.cyberspace.org.
remmers
response 5 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 11:58 UTC 1996

Correction to #1: URL stands for "Uniform Resource Locator".
bjorn
response 6 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 13:11 UTC 1996

Here's a computer logic question:
Since most things for computers that spell pronouncable syllables, albiet
somethings spelled incorrectly, and we usually pronounce them that way -
is it the least bit sensible to call URLs U-R-L's, instead of pronouncing
"earl"?
ajax
response 7 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 15:42 UTC 1996

Seems more like a linguistic question.  I think both are sensible.  When
I'm talking to a novice, I usually pronounce it U-R-L, while if I'm talking
to someone who I think will correctly parse "earl", I'll say it that way.
robh
response 8 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 15:45 UTC 1996

I try to avoid pronouncing it "erl", since people may think I'm
talking about some guy named "Earl".  >8)  Pronouncing it
"you are ell" is fine with me.  (You are Elle?  As in Elle Macpherson?)
robh
response 9 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 15:53 UTC 1996

This item has been linked from Info 289 to Intro 84.
Type "join info" at the Ok: prompt for discussion of
how the heck you get Grex to work.
bjorn
response 10 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 15:53 UTC 1996

Okay.  Interesting.
bjorn
response 11 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 15:53 UTC 1996

Re #9 slipped in.
rcurl
response 12 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 25 18:28 UTC 1996

I thought a Uniform Resource Locator was a service provided for Civil War
reenactors.
srw
response 13 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 05:53 UTC 1996

Indeed, our official URL is http://www.cyberspace.org/ .

This is so that we could run the web browser on another computer if we had
one and thought it would be a useful thing to do. In the fututre it may be,
therefore I discourage the use of grex.cyberspace.org in URLs, although they
work fine, and probably will do so for a long time.

Many sites use www.domain ftp.domain or gopher.domain as CNAMES for the 
real host that does the work. A CNAME is a special record in the DNS 
database that defines a hostname to be an alias for another host,
This is just a convention, but it is very common.
remmers
response 14 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 11:05 UTC 1996

Re the pronunciation issue: I say "you are ell" and avoid "erl",
which I dislike. I would much rather pronounce GUI as "gee you
eye" rather than "gooey", but the latter is so universally
practiced that I've given in on that one.
popcorn
response 15 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 13:20 UTC 1996

This response has been erased.

bjorn
response 16 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 13:34 UTC 1996

This is getting very silly - not that that's necessarily a bad thing . . .
;-)
davel
response 17 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 14:08 UTC 1996

To get even sillier, I'd add that using cyberspace.com (as the original item
stated in the question) won't get you grex at all.  It has to be
cyberspace.org.  Odd that no one has commented on this earlier in the
responses.
robh
response 18 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 14:34 UTC 1996

Hmm, you're right, and you would think we would have noticed
that one right off...  Sorry!

I bet the folks at cyberspace.com would be thrilled if you paid
them a visit, though.  >8)
bjorn
response 19 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 17:02 UTC 1996

Not really, I did that accidentally once - 'twas annoying.
albaugh
response 20 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 20:47 UTC 1996

While I'll admit the sloth of not reading TFM before asking this, it seems
that grex has been set up to use the filename "homepage.html" instead of
"index.html" for the home page of ~anyuser.  Will index.html also work?
bjorn
response 21 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 21:42 UTC 1996

I know this belongs in another item, and undoubtedly this is the right
conference - I'm just too lazy to search for the right item: Is there a way
to force pine to destroy duplicate messages so that mailing lists that get
f***ed up can't bombard me with their stupidity?
albaugh
response 22 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 21:48 UTC 1996

That was rude, bjorn - when in doubt put it in the intro item.
OTOH, this item really belongs in the internet conf...
robh
response 23 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 26 22:16 UTC 1996

Going back to albaugh's original question:  We switched over from
homepage.html to index.html well over a year ago.  mkhomepage now
creates "index.html" files.  I'm actually startled that anyone
remembers that it used to create "homepage.html" files instead!

(In fact, ~userid should NOT be able to access homepage.html at
this point.)
bjorn
response 24 of 33: Mark Unseen   Jul 27 18:19 UTC 1996

Re #22: being lazy is rude?  Usually, that's what I would have done anyway
- put it in the intro item, that is - I actually did conduct a b "pine" but
it was taking a long time.  Anywho, time to get back on the topic . . .
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