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wh
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Kermit dial in
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Sep 17 17:56 UTC 1995 |
I am trying to set up a friend's PC to dial in via Kermit. I get
in okay about once out of five. The other times I get on but
receive ~~ etc. I have \N set in hayes.scr to turn off error
correction but I don't think it's turning off. I try cntrl break
several times also.
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srw
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response 1 of 40:
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Sep 17 19:05 UTC 1995 |
Some modems use other codes beside \N. Check the modem manual.
Does contrl-brk send a break in PC Kermit? I'm not sure.
I use command-B in Mac-Kermit and it works when the speed is hosed.
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popcorn
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response 2 of 40:
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Sep 18 04:25 UTC 1995 |
This response has been erased.
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wh
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response 3 of 40:
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Sep 18 06:52 UTC 1995 |
I see I'm sending the wrong thing for a break signal. I'll try
^]B next time.
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wh
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response 4 of 40:
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Sep 18 07:00 UTC 1995 |
Using MS-Kermit. Hayes.scr is a file on the Kermit disk with
Gianone's book. When I add M to the AT line, it dials with no
volume on the modem, so I know it accesses this file somehow.
Also, in dialups.txt, I have grex 761-3000 2400 even
so it should be trying in even parity.
The modem is internal with no manual so we don't know what it is.
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popcorn
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response 5 of 40:
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Sep 18 13:52 UTC 1995 |
This response has been erased.
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rcurl
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response 6 of 40:
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Sep 18 19:08 UTC 1995 |
This might be off the point, but is there a "Kermit" used for mail on
VAX-VMS systems? A colleague says that he must use "Kermit" provided by
his university (not in MI) to read mail via dialin. I logged into his
account via internet (with permission), and had access to files etc, but
got garbage when I tried to open his mail program.
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remmers
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response 7 of 40:
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Sep 19 02:56 UTC 1995 |
So maybe he's the kind of guy who gets a lot of garbage mail.
Hmm... I use VAX/VMS and have never had a problem reading my mail
using any standard communication program, and no problem via
telnet either. Not sure what would be going on in your friend's
case.
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rcurl
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response 8 of 40:
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Sep 19 07:03 UTC 1995 |
(The "garbage" was messed up formatting. I'll get an example.)
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remmers
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response 9 of 40:
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Sep 19 10:25 UTC 1995 |
(So I figured. Yes, an example might give a clue as to what's going on.)
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davel
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response 10 of 40:
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Sep 19 11:33 UTC 1995 |
<rcurl prepares to post private email on the net>?
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davel
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response 11 of 40:
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Sep 19 11:33 UTC 1995 |
8-{)}
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rcurl
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response 12 of 40:
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Sep 19 16:28 UTC 1995 |
Heh...I connected again, and this time it worked! Only "error" message was
%DCL-W-INSFPRM, missing command parameters - supply all required parameters
So my question is moot. I guess my friends main problem is finding "Kermit"
for dialin a not very user friendly program.
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remmers
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response 13 of 40:
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Sep 20 11:08 UTC 1995 |
Well, VMS is a not very user friendly operating system, so it sounds
like a good match.
The next version of Kermit (for Windows 95) will not be freeware.
List price = $54. ($45 if ordered before October 5)
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remmers
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response 14 of 40:
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Sep 20 11:08 UTC 1995 |
Oops, make that $49 for early orders.
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scg
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response 15 of 40:
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Sep 21 05:34 UTC 1995 |
I have trouble seeing why people would pay for a Windows 95 terminal program.
Rather than including their own terminal program with Windows 95, Microsoft
licenced somebody else's, and Windows 95 therefore comes with a very nice
terminal program. It's called HyperTerminal.
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remmers
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response 16 of 40:
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Sep 21 11:05 UTC 1995 |
I've used HyperTerminal a bit, and it's actually pretty limited
(although better than the brain-damaged Terminal program that came
with Windows 3.1). Can't change the number of rows or columns
on screen, only an incomplete implementation of VT100 supported
(and no VT102, VT220, etc.), and not much in the way of file
transfer. Also no telnet capability--strictly serial, dialup
communications. So HyperTerminal isn't a very full-featured
product.
Kermit for Windows 95 will offer everything that MS-DOS Kermit
does--like VT320 emulation, full keyboard redefinability, and Kermit
file transfers with sliding windows and long packets--and a lot more:
full integration with the Win95 environment, multiple terminal
windows, dialing directory, zmodem, and winsock-compliant telnet
capability. For the official announcement, see
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/k95.html
I've already ordered a copy.
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srw
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response 17 of 40:
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Sep 21 13:28 UTC 1995 |
We need a really good comms program and telnet client at my office.
It should support full vt100, scrollback, copy and paste, and multiple xfer
protocols. I am convinced Kermit 95 should be site licensed for this purpose,
but this is based on the hype. I will probably wait to order it
until I have had an opportunity to test it. It might cost more that
way, but it will be peanuts compared to the lost productivity of
having chosen the wrong solution.
Other commercial solutions are much higher in price, and many miss important
features. Shareware solutions have too many glitches. I have great
hopes for K95.
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remmers
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response 18 of 40:
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Sep 21 16:55 UTC 1995 |
Right. I ordered it sight unseen, just based on the hype, because the
same team is developing it that did MS-DOS Kermit, which I have been
using for years and which is an excellent communications program.
They have an excellent track record.
But I'm just ordering it for myself. If you're contemplating a site
license for a company, it's indeed wisest to wait until you can
evaluate it.
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remmers
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response 19 of 40:
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Sep 21 17:19 UTC 1995 |
(Hopefully Bill will feel free to barge into the midst of this
drift if he has further questions or comments concerning the
original problem.)
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scg
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response 20 of 40:
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Sep 22 00:24 UTC 1995 |
Oh, I hadn't played around with Hyperterminal enough to find out about the
limitations. I just assumed that it would be able to do things I haven't
tried, since it does everything I've tried to do with it. Maybe it was
designed specifically around how I tend to use a terminal program. ;)
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remmers
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response 21 of 40:
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Sep 23 13:25 UTC 1995 |
Hey, if it works for you, fine. I know people who are still using
T-Com. (And there aren't that many people who even know what T-Com
is.)
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scg
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response 22 of 40:
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Sep 24 02:42 UTC 1995 |
What's T-Com?
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wh
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response 23 of 40:
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Sep 26 03:59 UTC 1995 |
]:h
I have uploaded mskermit.ini, mscustom.ini, hayes.scr, and
dialups.txt to /u/wh. These files get me into Grex fine. But
when I try them on a friend's PC, they only get in some of the
time. It has an internal modem. I'm not sure what brand or what
commands to send it. Don't different modems require different
commands sometimes? Are are all commands standard by now?
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remmers
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response 24 of 40:
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Sep 26 10:03 UTC 1995 |
Re #22: T-Com is an MS-DOS communications program developed by
Glen Roberts in 1984 and last updated in 1985 or '86. I used it
for a while. Good for its time, but time has passed it by.
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