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mcpoz
Recovery from Lynx slow loading items Mark Unseen   Apr 15 20:52 UTC 1995

When I am on Lynx, every once in a while, I try to contact a hypertext
item and it is E X T R E M E L Y   S L O W.  The only way I have found
to recover is ^C which takes me completely out of Lynx.  Is there a 
way to recover and stay in Lynx?
37 responses total.
robh
response 1 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 15 22:05 UTC 1995

Hit "z" to abort loading an http document.
mcpoz
response 2 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 01:08 UTC 1995

Thanks ! ! 
mcpoz
response 3 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 23 18:12 UTC 1995

Is the reason for slow loading anything that I impact?  Or is it due to
transmission faults at the source or along the way?
robh
response 4 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 23 22:20 UTC 1995

Last I heard, the reason for the slow loading was something to
do with our Internet provider, ICNet, and the staff was going to
call them and get it sorted out "real soon now".
srw
response 5 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 24 04:33 UTC 1995

I do not remember that, Rob. Lynx is slow to load data because our
internet link is slow. It may be even slower than telnetting in because
the port (port 80) used for http is not given as high a priority
as the telnet port. This packet prioritization is done in the routers.

I am not aware of any plan to speed this up short of an upgrade to the
internet link bandwidth, which is not a project the board has authorized
any expenditure for yet.
robh
response 6 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 10:36 UTC 1995

You don't remember?  One week, the speed of http connections
went WAAAY down, and sometimes only went 28 bytes at a time.
Someone - I think steve - mentioned that we had been shunted
from our own modem at ICNet, to the general modem pool.
The 28-byte-thingy I assume is the router's problem, but
I know http connections used to be a lot faster than they are
now, and I only have my earlier experience on Grex to compare
it to.
popcorn
response 7 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 12:50 UTC 1995

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robh
response 8 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 22:52 UTC 1995

If that's the case, then I don't understand it either...
popcorn
response 9 of 37: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 13:03 UTC 1995

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nephi
response 10 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 2 07:55 UTC 1995

What was their answer?
popcorn
response 11 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 2 13:54 UTC 1995

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remmers
response 12 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 2 16:31 UTC 1995

Our contact person with Ivars is a parameter now?
And how do you justify physical abuse?
davel
response 13 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 2 22:00 UTC 1995

<whack! whack!>
popcorn
response 14 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 2 22:46 UTC 1995

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popcorn
response 15 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 2 22:46 UTC 1995

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curby
response 16 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 4 12:05 UTC 1995

I kinda suck at configuring anything but cisco's and t1's, but if I can
be of any assistance, let me know.  

Has anyone ever considered asking Ivars how much an ISDN line would be?
I think that the hardware can be gotten for just over $1000, and the
cost from Ameritch (home useage quote) is around 50$ a month.  Then the
single connect charge from Ameritech (no per useage basis), then
whatever Ivars would charge for a port on his equipment.

I know that Grex rasied the capitol to get the Gig drive, and I am sure
a 64 kb link would be loved by the grex users.  I think that if people
were interested, that grex could keep the cost down to less then $150 a
month, pending what Ivars charged...

But anyway, let me know if I can be of any help...
popcorn
response 17 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 4 13:34 UTC 1995

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peacefrg
response 18 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 4 15:20 UTC 1995

I want a t3 at my house :P

My server just got an isdn line and when I go up to the campus I will be
directly linked onto it. What does this do for mew? What can I do differant
than on my 14.4?
remmers
response 19 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 4 20:47 UTC 1995

You can take fewer coffee breaks between characters.
davel
response 20 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 5 11:03 UTC 1995

Only if the system load is low enough!
curby
response 21 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 6 09:37 UTC 1995

I would say that, instead of upgrading the speed of the main grex
machine, you should instead think about getting even more of these slow
low-end machines, then combining them together on a LAN of some sort
(FDDI preferably).  What are the largest CPU hogs currently?  I would
think that things like our local IRC equivalent, and the www traffic
can be done on a different machine.  I would think that even PicoSpan
could be off-loaded onto a different machine.  Then that would leave
the fastest machine for peoples home directories and mail.

I know that grex is currently an old sun.  Has anyone in the sysadm
group ever worked on RT's?  I think that I could lay my hands on a
couple of them to put into Grex's architecture...  I would have to
check on that though...

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Regarding the ISDN thing.  I understand that you can get a low end ISDN
conversion box (TA) for ~$400.  The charge for home installation from
Ameritech is ~$150.  The monthly charge is ~$45.  The only other
recurring charge is the "connection" fee that Ameritech charges when
making an intiial connection to the far end ($7).  I do not know what
Ivars charges, but these costs so far only come to ~$750 for
installation, then ~$60 month.

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So who in the Grex community is in the engineering planning group?
remmers
response 22 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 6 11:24 UTC 1995

Gee, and here I thought it was called "The Poor Saps Who Get Stuck with
All the Dirty Work".
peacefrg
response 23 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 6 15:09 UTC 1995

An isdn line wouldn't affect the telnetters would it?
curby
response 24 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 7 02:30 UTC 1995

John: <grin> Sorry for the confusion.  I'll change the question a little...

"So who here are the poor saps that get stuck with all the Dirty Work?"

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Re ISDN & Telnet:

ISDN is part of the link layer.  The same way that you modem is part of
the link layer when connecting to a PPP provider.  TCP/IP is not
(supposedly) affected by the link layer.  

So, no, ISDN will not affect telnetters, other then giving them (and
other application layer stuff) a larger bandwidth to do things in.
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