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Grex > Info > #137: HOW DO I USE THE UESNET FROM HERE???? | |
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matts
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HOW DO I USE THE UESNET FROM HERE????
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Apr 13 01:26 UTC 1994 |
would someone explain how i use the usenet from here!! i need help!!
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robh
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response 1 of 63:
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Apr 13 01:37 UTC 1994 |
Matt, I put this in the other item. Honestly.
OK, to make it as point-blank stupidly easy as I can.
Type !trn at the Ok: prompt.
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vidar
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response 2 of 63:
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Apr 13 01:38 UTC 1994 |
I couldn't have said it better, or worse, myself.
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popcorn
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response 3 of 63:
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Apr 13 02:24 UTC 1994 |
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scg
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response 4 of 63:
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Apr 13 02:29 UTC 1994 |
But (and I said this in the other item too), if you are going to try to
read news here, prepare for a *long* wait. We don't have an onsight news
disk, and if you've ever used our Internet connection, you will have
noticed how slow it is.
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rcurl
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response 5 of 63:
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Apr 13 04:39 UTC 1994 |
To add to #3: the command find "keyword" will bring
up all the responses in all Items in which "keyword" appears. Or
is that the same as browse "topicname" ?
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davel
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response 6 of 63:
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Apr 13 10:15 UTC 1994 |
In fact, presumably because news is ****SO SLOW****, it sometimes just
crashes on you. (And I've been giving up on news lately, when it's still
sitting there after 15 minutes or half an hour without giving me *anything*.
No idea how much longer it would be.)
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remmers
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response 7 of 63:
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Apr 13 14:22 UTC 1994 |
Re #3: I'll second Valerie's recommendation of the "info" conference
for answers to "how to" questions on system utilities and applications.
There's a lot of information currently there, and if you don't find
what you're looking for, you can always enter a new item to ask your
question. Several system-knowledgable people hang out in "info",
so you're likely to get answers in more depth than when you ask
in agora.
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symbol
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response 8 of 63:
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Apr 13 17:15 UTC 1994 |
ello
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scg
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response 9 of 63:
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Apr 13 20:58 UTC 1994 |
Should this be linked to info?
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popcorn
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response 10 of 63:
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Apr 14 02:54 UTC 1994 |
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carson
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response 11 of 63:
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Apr 14 03:27 UTC 1994 |
does this mean that we are going to make a habit of linking every item
that's entered by a newuser in the wrong conference, even though the
answer to their question is IN the appropriate conference already, several
times in fact? No wonder those conferences get so big... why bother
reading anything but Agora? We can just enter every item here and if we
want to specialize in something, we can join the conference for it. I'll
never enter an item anywhere but Agora again...
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remmers
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response 12 of 63:
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Apr 14 04:28 UTC 1994 |
Too much of that and nobody will want to read agora. Best strategy
is to learn what conferences are here, join the ones that best
match your interests, and enter material appropriate to those
conferences directly in those conferences.
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peg
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response 13 of 63:
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Apr 14 04:58 UTC 1994 |
Why not stop "dumping" people into Agora? Put New Users into the "New Users"
conference, where they learn how to access the others?..Don't link...teach
them to go to the appropriate conference. Just a suggestion.
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rcurl
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response 14 of 63:
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Apr 14 07:09 UTC 1994 |
One danger of that is that oldusers might not put newusers in their
.cflist. Agora is the community marketplace, and newcomers can join
in with what is going on. What would happen if all the newusers
were isolated in their own playground? I don't think it would help.
One thing I hope you have noticed is that oldusers use agora, and
are *not* annoyed by newuser problems.
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tsty
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response 15 of 63:
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Apr 14 09:04 UTC 1994 |
Not too much anyway. Massive repitition makes for lots of "forgets," though.
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rcurl
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response 16 of 63:
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Apr 14 13:25 UTC 1994 |
Those "forgets" don't usually get applied to newuser problems but to
subsequent inane babble.
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steve
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response 17 of 63:
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Apr 14 19:51 UTC 1994 |
That is an interesting idea Peg, and it's been discussed
before. Perhaps I'm getting old, but I can't remember why we
decided not to do that. Well, probably one good reason is
that most people read a lot before responding to anything;
typically 90% of a conference population is read-only. So
a test conference would stiffle a lot of those people,
'cause believe it or not most people still don't know about
the other conferences or how to get into them.
So now that I've thought about it a little, I think
I remember feeling that its was probably a little better
to keep newbies in the agora conference, from that last
debate over the issue. But you're welcome to start it
up again--certainly we're getting a very different set of people
on Grex these days; gone forever are the times of techie
folk dominating this (or any other) system.
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davel
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response 18 of 63:
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Apr 14 20:04 UTC 1994 |
I think a better solution is to have some **good**, **easy-to-find**
introductory stuff readily available in Agora. And maybe as an (optional)
endpoint for newuser, too.
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remmers
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response 19 of 63:
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Apr 14 21:30 UTC 1994 |
Re #17, next-to-last line: s/techie/mature/
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carson
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response 20 of 63:
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Apr 14 21:45 UTC 1994 |
ROTFL!
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kentn
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response 21 of 63:
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Apr 14 22:23 UTC 1994 |
Re: 18, the Info conference contains a lot of that. Maybe link two
or three standard items from Info to Agora? Or would a standard,
frozen, tutorial item in Agora be better?
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popcorn
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response 22 of 63:
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Apr 15 00:57 UTC 1994 |
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srw
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response 23 of 63:
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Apr 15 01:46 UTC 1994 |
I would hope that new users would find the hypertext browser, lynx,
a helpful way to get introductory material. All they have to do is type
!lynx at the Ok: prompt and navigate with their arrow keys.
(Don't try this on a dumb terminal, kids, you need ansi, vt-100 or better).
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davel
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response 24 of 63:
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Apr 15 02:14 UTC 1994 |
Which may mean that we need to put a wrapper around it to check term setting.
(Or does it refuse to run, with some coherent error message, in the presence
of TERM=dumb?)
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