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peg
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Where is everyone?
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Apr 10 23:35 UTC 1994 |
Hi. This is my second try at posting to Agora.
I've been reading some of your past discussions
and like the flavor, but I'm extremely new on
the net. Some tried to chat with me earlier
I think, but I was too dumb to be able to
answer. Howcum sometimes I get bounced
all the way back to my gopher menu when I
exit one of your menus? Too many ^Cs?
Peg
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robh
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response 1 of 112:
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Apr 11 00:56 UTC 1994 |
Yeah, that's probably it. What exactly are you doing?
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steve
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response 2 of 112:
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Apr 11 01:57 UTC 1994 |
Welcome to Grex, peg.
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val
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response 3 of 112:
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Apr 11 02:00 UTC 1994 |
This sounds interesting but any comments from me would be like the blind
leading the blind.
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omni
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response 4 of 112:
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Apr 11 05:31 UTC 1994 |
peg, at the next OK: prompt type !more /u/omni/2 and that should
set you straight on how to navigate around the world of Grex.
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tsty
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response 5 of 112:
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Apr 11 20:11 UTC 1994 |
Nice text, omni.
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jamie
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response 6 of 112:
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Apr 11 23:29 UTC 1994 |
How do you people remember all of these "!" commands?!?!?
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gerund
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response 7 of 112:
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Apr 11 23:37 UTC 1994 |
Those "!" commands become a part of you after a while.
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peg
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response 8 of 112:
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Apr 12 00:04 UTC 1994 |
Thanks to omni, I'll check it out. I have a feeling part of the
problem I'm having is just due to impatience and a slowwww system...
...plus, the "rn" command seems to drop me into a deep hole. I'm
sure I'll figure it all out.
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peg
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response 9 of 112:
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Apr 12 00:47 UTC 1994 |
OK. Thanks to omni for the helpful hints. I honestly
can't remember whether I was ^Cing or "q"ing when I
was getting bounced entirely out of grex...just knew
I wasn't in Kansas anymore... so to robh, I'd have
to say, it's probably like my golf swing...if I
knew what I was doing (wrong)..I'd never slice!
Thanks to Steve for the welcome. How do you
find out what conference might be active at any
particular time? i.e. "where is everyone?"
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carl
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response 10 of 112:
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Apr 12 01:48 UTC 1994 |
I'm guessing that "!w" is the command that you'd like to know about.
It lets you know who is online, how long they've been online, and
what they're doing.
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omni
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response 11 of 112:
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Apr 12 02:11 UTC 1994 |
I was happy to do it. You're welcome.
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robh
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response 12 of 112:
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Apr 12 02:59 UTC 1994 |
Re 6 - Jamie, I've been using Unix since 1987. After a while,
the commands are just as easy to remember as the commands
of any command-line interpreter. rm for remove, ls for list,
cp for copy, mv for move, simple!
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bdp
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response 13 of 112:
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Apr 12 04:15 UTC 1994 |
ln for link, ed for the line editor, cat to view files or combine them,
ps for process lists, man to view manual pages, awk/sed/perl for weird
string processing... yeah, it makes sense! :) diff, comb, uniq, grep. :)
Three useful commands (including !w) are:
!w - (see above)
!finger, which shows a list of everyone who's one plus their real names
!who, which is a condensed version of w (doesn't show what they're doing)
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rcurl
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response 14 of 112:
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Apr 12 04:20 UTC 1994 |
You left out some !s, robh. Here a supply - !!!!!.
Re # 6 - print 'em out and refer them until they're memorized.
Re # 8 - rn is slow as it reads over the SLIP link, but local disk is coming.
Re # 10 - no ! needed for w (see, they make things easy for everyone).
Now, I'm going to do omni's 2, and see if I can get the hang of this thing.
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srw
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response 15 of 112:
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Apr 12 05:21 UTC 1994 |
Rane makes a good point aboout news. Without enough disk space to hold
the news locally, we go over a slow link to fetch it item by item.
We plan on putting it on a local disk as soon as we can.
rn, trn, etc. will all speed up.
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bubbles
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response 16 of 112:
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Apr 12 06:06 UTC 1994 |
Someone needs to keep reminding me that !rn brings up a news reader. It
is NOT the equivalent of ren (rename) on MS-DOS! To rename something, use
!mv to "move" it to the new name. More than one I've gotten dumped into
the news reader while trying to rename a file.
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davel
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response 17 of 112:
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Apr 12 09:58 UTC 1994 |
Ouch.
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robh
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response 18 of 112:
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Apr 12 10:17 UTC 1994 |
Re 14 - But I use cshell, so I don't needs !'s. >8)
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peg
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response 19 of 112:
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Apr 13 03:30 UTC 1994 |
Thanks for !w info, carl. Now I just have to figure out
where /usr/local/bin/bbs and "party" might be...
Is it just me, or are you Unix users a little sensitive
about your precious little language ;) ? SURE it all
makes sense.. vi for...edit? and what the hell is grep?
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aruba
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response 20 of 112:
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Apr 13 03:39 UTC 1994 |
grep is "get regular expression", I believe.
ANd yes, UNIX people are a very proud tribe, in my experience.
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scg
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response 21 of 112:
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Apr 13 04:05 UTC 1994 |
You are in /usr/local/bbs right now. Party is a program that lets you
talk with lots of people in real time. type "party" at the "Ok:" prompt
to try it out.
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carson
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response 22 of 112:
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Apr 13 05:09 UTC 1994 |
NO! Don't party! If you're expecting a party like you can find on other
conferencing systems, you WON'T! Party sucks!
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davel
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response 23 of 112:
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Apr 13 10:12 UTC 1994 |
Peg, "vi" is for "VIsual editor", I believe. "grep" is for General Regular
Expression Print program, which I admit is no help to you since you don't
know what a regular expression is. (A regexp is a pattern, and grep lets
you find lines containing a wide variety of patterns, as well as specific
literal strings, in a text file.) (Don't even ask why awk is named that.)
You would have more appreciation for cryptic-but-**SHORT** names for things
if you'd had much experience logging into early-1970s minicomputers over
110 bps modems. (Why, when I was young ... )
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carl
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Apr 13 10:18 UTC 1994 |
Peg, I've learned enough Unix to be past the point of dangerous.
I know what I know and I know what I don't know.
If/when we get more disk space, I'd like to keep some Unix tutorials
I found on the Web. There is a basic tutorial available through
"lynx" in the Publicly Accessible Files. It's popcorn's unix guide.
I just found out about "pico" (even though I had seen it mentioned
in a few places). It's a *much* easier to use editor than vi.
And all I know about grep is that you can search one or more files
for a test string. I don't know its syntax, and I won't even
mention the man command...
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