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wjw
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Login via internet
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Mar 22 16:14 UTC 1994 |
Question: (I think I know the answer)
Is logging in from the outside via internet (eg thru msu gopher)
reserved for members, or can anybody do this?
Also, what systems (gophers, etc) is Grex "advertized" on?
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jared
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response 1 of 30:
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Mar 22 16:22 UTC 1994 |
anyone can do this.
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carl
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response 2 of 30:
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Mar 22 16:25 UTC 1994 |
Currently, anyone who logs on to the msu-gopher can connect here.
It's just a matter of tracing through the menus.
As far as "advertising," I think the msu-gopher is the only system
that has a publicly accessible telnet connection here. Of course
anyone can telnet here to cyberspace.org from any system if they
have access to the telnet prompt. It's just that publicly accessible
systems usually limit telnet connections.
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carl
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response 3 of 30:
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Mar 22 16:25 UTC 1994 |
Someone slipped in ahead of me!
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popcorn
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response 4 of 30:
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Mar 22 19:39 UTC 1994 |
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popcorn
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response 5 of 30:
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Mar 22 19:39 UTC 1994 |
This response has been erased.
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bubbles
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response 6 of 30:
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Mar 26 08:47 UTC 1994 |
Anybody who has a modem and a phone line and about $18 a month to pay Netcom
for an account can telnet anywhere anybody else can telnet. ~f ~p
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scg
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response 7 of 30:
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Mar 26 14:21 UTC 1994 |
Where is Netcom a local call from?
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bubbles
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response 8 of 30:
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Mar 26 18:20 UTC 1994 |
Send mail to info@netcom.com and their vacation program will send you
several screens' worth of stuff, including a list of phone numbers.
They were originally just California, but they're in other parts of the U.S.
now also. ISTR Texas, among others. I don't know about Michican.
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rcurl
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response 9 of 30:
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Mar 27 04:58 UTC 1994 |
Look in /u/rcurl/PDIAL.list for a description of netcom. Also of a hundred
or so other sites you can pay $$$ and telnet anywhere anybody can telnet.
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cicero
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response 10 of 30:
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Apr 18 05:20 UTC 1994 |
login via the internet--that is what I'm doing, because I keep
getting a busy signal when I dial in. But w shows that only
ttyh0,1,2 and 4 are in use. What happened to ttyh3 and 5 (I think there's
a ttyh5 isn't there? Inquiring minds want to know.
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rcurl
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response 11 of 30:
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Apr 18 05:37 UTC 1994 |
They are used. The dialins are relatively easy to access. (Don't know
just now which one I'm on now - probably not ttyh02, though - not noisy.
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srw
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response 12 of 30:
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Apr 18 05:40 UTC 1994 |
Yes there is and it's confusing. I am often the culptrit as I run a
program called layers which allows me to have multiple windows on Grex
all sharing the same phone line. It updates the temp file to show my sessions,
but the line I'm connected on doesn't show up in the 'w' command.
You can get the same effect by running the unix screen program to have
multiple screens. the line really is in use though, and you can usually see
evidence of that by using 'finger' instead of 'w'. This will show you that each
of my sessions connected from ttyh3.
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cicero
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response 13 of 30:
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Apr 18 06:58 UTC 1994 |
Oh, I didn't realize that finger worked like w I thought it was like f.
Never assume with unix i guess. Are you sure that is what's going on
though Steve, w showed you (a bit later) as being on ttyh5 (and I think
also showed your other layers on ttyp(somethings)) but there was nobody
on ttyh3 the whole time (at least that w showed).
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bubbles
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response 14 of 30:
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Apr 18 07:32 UTC 1994 |
I don't know if this is the place for this, but I noticed a couple of newusers
idle quite a while:
3:29am up 2 days, 13:58, 10 users, load average: 2.94, 2.91, 2.52
User tty login@ idle JCPU PCPU what
tdh ttyh0 1:29am 1:06 1:06 /usr/local/games/lib/nh313adir/n
cicero ttyh5 3:22am 7 5 1 /usr/local/bin/less -dre -P --Mo
jprice ttyp1 2:27am 50 5 -sh
newuser ttyp2 2:07am 1:22 -
brianj ttyp3 3:07am 6 25 13 beej
bubbles ttyp5 2:28am 52 16 w
jeffrey ttyp6 3:24am 1 5 4 trn
chas ttyp8 8:43pm 2:07 1:52 tf
newuser ttyp9 3:28am 1 -
newuser ttypa 1:40am 1:46 -
tdh ttyh0 Apr 18 01:29
cicero ttyh5 Apr 18 03:22
jprice ttyp1 Apr 18 02:27 (Z011000.PC3.AF.)
newuser ttyp2 Apr 18 02:07 (unbvm1.csd.unb.)
brianj ttyp3 Apr 18 03:07 (admiral.umsl.ed)
bubbles ttyp5 Apr 18 02:28 (netcom6.netcom.)
jeffrey ttyp6 Apr 18 03:24 (twain.ucs.umass)
chas ttyp8 Apr 17 20:43 (NUBS63.ccs.itd.)
newuser ttyp9 Apr 18 03:28 (cap.gwu.edu)
newuser ttypa Apr 18 01:40 (unbvm1.csd.unb.)
And they seem to be logged in by Internet.
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davel
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response 15 of 30:
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Apr 18 10:00 UTC 1994 |
You mean that ttyh3 & ttyh5 are no longer in the hunt sequence? Why not?
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rcurl
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response 16 of 30:
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Apr 18 14:31 UTC 1994 |
It has been observed before that if you dump your internet connection
without logging off grex, your connection ("process"?) stays around
until..what..staff dumps it? I presume that is what chas had. This is
very easy to do if you are surfing the internet, and opening connections
to hosts all over the place, until you have dozens piled up - and
then just dump your link. (How is the internet, or the internet hosts,
supposed to deal with this?)
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gerund
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response 17 of 30:
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Apr 18 14:45 UTC 1994 |
I believe, in general, these days a dropped carrier will terminate a
connection MOST of the time. I know I've done it before and been logged out.
At least it appeared I was logged out, because upon returning to grex a
few minutes later I wasn't still logged on from my previous
session.
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rcurl
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response 18 of 30:
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Apr 18 14:55 UTC 1994 |
Was that via the internet? My connection is a PPP link to the local
MichNet NAS, and grex has no way to know that I've dumped the PPP
link. I have found my process still active the day after I had
interrupted without logging off (which I try to avoid doing, but
can't do much about when the NAS quits on me!).
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gerund
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response 19 of 30:
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Apr 18 15:21 UTC 1994 |
Ok, yes its through the internet via Merit to msu-gopher.
If *I* drop carrier it ends a session. If, however, Merit or
msu-gopher 'locks up' and I have to drop carrier, then when I get back
on grex usually there *IS* an idle login sesion.
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davel
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response 20 of 30:
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Apr 18 19:21 UTC 1994 |
In theory, each place you're talking to along the way should notice that
you're not there & close its connection to the next one, allowing it to
do likewise. Seems like it doesn't always work.
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popcorn
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response 21 of 30:
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Apr 19 03:03 UTC 1994 |
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gerund
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response 22 of 30:
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Apr 19 03:36 UTC 1994 |
Its a case by case thing. Sometimes I get logged off, others I'm still on.
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scg
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response 23 of 30:
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Apr 19 03:41 UTC 1994 |
Gopher locked up on me once when I was telnetted into Grex through that
freenet in Finland I used to go through before grex got added to the
gopher menu. I logged in on a dialup a few hours later and noticed that
my connection from Finland was still there. It must be somewhat inconsistent.
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bubbles
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response 24 of 30:
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Apr 19 05:50 UTC 1994 |
However it happens, are idle hung sessions enough of a bandwidth drain to
be worth writing a program to time out idle users?
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