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valerie
Agenda for the 10/22/97 Grex Board of Directors Meeting Mark Unseen   Oct 15 22:12 UTC 1997

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valerie
response 1 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 22:13 UTC 1997

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aruba
response 2 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 15 22:30 UTC 1997

I think we should talk about whether to hold another auction in 
November/December.  It's rapidly approaching the time when we should get it
going if we're gonna have one.
valerie
response 3 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 02:36 UTC 1997

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janc
response 4 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 17 03:17 UTC 1997

The paperwork for a salestax license has been submitted and will presumably
be approved soon.  That means we are basically ready to open the Grex
store...except...oops...no merchandise.  We need to make plans for production
of T-shirts, coffee mugs and whatsits.
remmers
response 5 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 18 11:21 UTC 1997

(What I wanna know is, what does foo.c do?)
jared
response 6 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 02:30 UTC 1997

I can let folks in the door if it doesn't get unlocked.
valerie
response 7 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 16:48 UTC 1997

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davel
response 8 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 13:50 UTC 1997

And why is foo running suid something-or-other?  Is this a security hole?
dang
response 9 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 17:40 UTC 1997

Probably, since it was written in one sitting, and not debugged. :)
remmers
response 10 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 19:54 UTC 1997

And it's been nicely packed up in a tar file too, ready for
distribution to an unsuspecting world.
jared
response 11 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 20 23:00 UTC 1997

foo.c:
main(){system("/bin/sh");}
davel
response 12 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 17:00 UTC 1997

heh
dang
response 13 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 19:31 UTC 1997

Can I get that one installed in my home directory by root on all the systems
I'm on?  Please? :)
tsty
response 14 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 18:51 UTC 1997

thought that between mkdir foo and cd foo there had to 
be a chmod ### foo ....!????
jared
response 15 of 41: Mark Unseen   Oct 22 20:20 UTC 1997

you don't need to reperm the directory.. unless you want to. that depends
on what you use the directory for, et.c.
mary
response 16 of 41: Mark Unseen   Dec 20 14:33 UTC 1997

Minutes from this meeting have not yet been posted.  Could
someone please see to it?  Misti?
mary
response 17 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 02:14 UTC 1998

Does anyone remember if Misti was still acting as secretary
at the time of this meeting?  If she was there?  
Does anyone on the Board remember if there was quorum
and if any motions were passed?

Not having minutes posted really makes it difficult
for the membership to feel informed and involved.
valerie
response 18 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 03:09 UTC 1998

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davel
response 19 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 19:20 UTC 1998

Re 17: or at least one member?  Personally, I'd like to see the minutes posted
but in this case it makes me feel like there's a glitch, nothing more.
aruba
response 20 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 21:13 UTC 1998

My memory is that Misti was there, although she arrived a bit late.
lilmo
response 21 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 22:24 UTC 1998

So, who do we *know* was there, that might have taken notes?
mary
response 22 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 15:14 UTC 1998

First, what I'm not saying.  I'm not saying folks deliberately
avoid posting minutes to conceal anything or with any intent
at all.  These are all volunteers doing their best and giving
of their time.  Their efforts are very much appreciated.

But what we seem to have is a problem getting information about what the
Board does into minutes and before the users.  It hasn't happened a lot,
only once before this were minutes never posted, and once again that they
were so late that the content seemed to be somewhat inaccurate.  Minutes
are important for not only to keep the membership informed but to document
where expenditures were authorized and by whom.  When we don't post
minutes we are violating our Bylaws: 

       Article 3.g:

       The secretary shall take minutes at all BOD meetings and
       make them available to the users of Grex in a timely fashion,
       shall maintain an up-to-date list of all officers, members,
       and staff, and shall handle routine correspondence.

So, I guess what I 'm asking here is what could we do to improve
documentation a little.  Maybe have a little tape recorder going at
each meeting so if the person taking notes is either unable to write
minutes, or loses the notes, there is a backup?  Have two people take
notes?  Be especially careful about who accepts the post of secretary? 

One suggestion I've made before is that any vote which was taken at a
Board meeting without posted minutes should be considered invalid and
voted on again when the quorum, text of the vote, and vote results can be
documented. 

Again, I don't mean to assault anyone here.  But maybe we could
try to find a way to make the job easier and avoid having Board
business conducted without documentation.
lilmo
response 23 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 20:47 UTC 1998

Perhaps as a backup, the presiding officer could record title and results for
each motion?
rcurl
response 24 of 41: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 07:31 UTC 1998

Then who ever volunteered to take the minutes would be miffed, for having
their reliability questioned. However the chair could 'ride herd' on
whoever takes the minutes, to encourage their production.
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