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aruba
Cyberspace Communications, Inc. finances through September 30th, 1997 Mark Unseen   Oct 2 17:31 UTC 1997

Here is the treasurer's report on Cyberspace Communications, Inc.
finances through September 30th, 1997.


Beginning Balance     $4,655.52

Credits                 $786.00         Member contributions
                         $45.00         Auction proceeds
                         $50.00         ISDN Fund contributions
                         $63.00         Miscellaneous contribution
                   ------------
                        $944.00

Debits                   $60.00         Pumpkin Rent for October
                         $83.00         Electricity for September
                         $20.00         Innovative Concepts phone line
                        $797.02         Phone Bill
                      $1,155.68         ISDN routers
                         $10.00         Michigan Corp. Info. Update
                          $5.77         Bank service charge
                   ------------
                      $2,131.47

Ending Balance        $3,468.05

Our current balance breaks down as follows:

$3,340.22               General fund
   $60.00               UPS fund
   $67.83               Silly Hat Fund

We had four new members in September (diznave, falcon1, qt314, and bigwalt).
We are currently at 100 members, 95 of whom are paid through at least October
15th.  (The others expired recently and are in a grace period.) 

This report is clearly dominated by the purchase of the ISDN routers and the 
cost of installation of the ISDN lines.  If it weren't for that, this would be 
a pretty good month.  All told, the routers cost $1155.68 and the installation 
cost $336.97, for a total of $1492.65.  The ISDN pledge drive has so far paid 
for $795 of that, and I expect another $80-$90 to come in, so in the end about 
$600 was paid out of the general fund. 

Thanks to everyone who contributed in September:

aruba, bigwalt, birdlady, blh, bmoran, bruin, carl, coyote, dang, diznave,
eeyore, falcon1, font, gustitus, llanarth, mdw, n8rxs, njt, qt314, quail,
robh, sekari, shepherd, srw, steve, tao, tsty, and valerie.

Thanks!

If you or your institution would like to become a member of Grex, all it takes
is $6/month (or $60/year).  Send money to:

Cyberspace Communications
P. O. Box 4432
Ann Arbor, MI 48106-4432

If you pay by cash or money order, please include a photocopy of some form
of ID.  I can't add you to the rolls without ID.  (If you pay by personal
check, we consider that a good enough ID.)  Type !support for more info.

26 responses total.
valerie
response 1 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 3 18:30 UTC 1997

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aruba
response 2 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 3 18:50 UTC 1997

Well, it's the second number (the number of "paid-up members", currently 95)
that we really ought to pay attention to, since the number of current members 
depends to a certain extent on how behind I am at removing overdue people.
But that number is up, too.
dpc
response 3 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 13:43 UTC 1997

Howcum the phone bill is so high this month?
valerie
response 4 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 14:44 UTC 1997

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aruba
response 5 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 16:32 UTC 1997

Here are the breakdowns of the phone bill for August and September.
The August bill is for August 4 through September 3.
The September bill is for September 4 through October 3.

                         August    September
                         ------    ---------

Monthly Service          $272.58   $327.03
Local Calls               $13.72    $11.54
Other Charges             $73.32   $410.28
Long Distance              $0.48     $0.00
911 Service                $5.52     $5.52
Fed Tax                    $7.03    $15.53
State Tax                 $17.30    $27.12
                         -------   -------
                         $389.95   $797.02

Our Monthly service went up by $54.45; that will be our continuing cost
for ISDN service.  The "Other Charges" for this month break down like
this:

Centrex Installation Payment #8     $73.31
Line Connection Charge              $42.00
Installation Charge                 $50.00
Installation Charge                $225.00
Prorating for Aug 24-Sep 3          $19.97
   ($54.45 x 11/30)
                                   -------
                                   $410.28

I must say the taxes are puzzling; it looks like there's about $120 worth
of stuff that's being taxed by the feds but not the state, but I can't
make anything add up to that number.
valerie
response 6 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 02:35 UTC 1997

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arthurp
response 7 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 03:14 UTC 1997

I typically get 3 or 4 calls on my bill to places I don't call.  They
only add up to about 1 or 2 dollars per bill, so it's not worth my time
to make the phone company take them off.  I think this is a planned
scam.  No one can wait on hold for an hour each month to clear up 2
dollars of overbill, but $2 per person per month nets nicely.
srw
response 8 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 03:54 UTC 1997

Federal tax is 3% - state tax is 6% - total is 9%
richard
response 9 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 14:36 UTC 1997

how does grex have long distance calls on its bill when it doesnt
have a long distance carrier>?
valerie
response 10 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 14:39 UTC 1997

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richard
response 11 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 15:03 UTC 1997

why does the astaff line have a long distance carrier in the
first place?
valerie
response 12 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 17:54 UTC 1997

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richard
response 13 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 18:32 UTC 1997

#12..those occurrences cant be frequent enough to warrant having a 
carrier.  Buy one of those $10 or $20 prepaid long distance calling 
cards and keep it next to the phone at the pumpkin.  This would be 
better than having a long distance carrier, getting bugged by other long 
distance carriers .etc
mta
response 14 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 18:42 UTC 1997

Actually, not having a long distance carrier is one of the best ways I 
know to ensure lots of calls from all the long distance carriers.  They 
simply cannot believe it's intentional.
richard
response 15 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 19:06 UTC 1997

Grex probably has long distance carriers on some of its modem lines and 
doesnt even know it!  
omni
response 16 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 19:23 UTC 1997

  As a user, I am not worried about .48 cents worth of ld calls. As I said
in another item, I think staff is well balanced, prudent, and well deserving
to make calls on the staff line. Cool it, richard.
mta
response 17 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 20:21 UTC 1997

It seesm to me that Valerie recently said that we had been inadvertently 
put on MCIs list of customers and that she was working with our 
representative to fix that.  Ergo, we know it.
aruba
response 18 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 20:50 UTC 1997

srw is correct in #8 about the tax rates; that's how they're reported on the 
bill.  But between last month and this the federal tax went up $8.50 and the
state tax went up $9.82, so clearly the feds are taxing something the state
isn't.

In August we had 35 local cals on the staff line (761-7541) and 131 on the
link modem (761-8228).  In September we had 137 calls on the link modem.
Local calls cost $.0842 each.
scg
response 19 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 06:08 UTC 1997

Most long distance carriers charge considerably less to people who have them
as their primary long distance carrier than to others who dial their access
code.  As long as we have a long distance carrier with no minimum charge, I's
assume it would be better to have one.
valerie
response 20 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 16:13 UTC 1997

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richard
response 21 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 16:27 UTC 1997

why even pay $5 a month when you can get a calling card, tape it to the
wallnext to the phone, that would probably last months if so few calls
are made.
aruba
response 22 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 19:58 UTC 1997

We certainly don't want to pay $5/month.
robh
response 23 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 21:20 UTC 1997

Re 20 - Given the staff's track record of making disk backups,
I'd be shocked if they were any better about keeping fresh
phone cards available.  And I'd sure hate to be the staffer
who desperately needed to make a call for an urgently needed
part and find out that the card has been used up...
valerie
response 24 of 26: Mark Unseen   Oct 10 02:35 UTC 1997

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