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valerie
The Conference Request Item Mark Unseen   Sep 13 13:13 UTC 1997

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valerie
response 1 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 13:17 UTC 1997

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richard
response 2 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 20:48 UTC 1997

Okay here's an idea.  It has occurred to me that Grex does not have a 
television conference.  So I herewith and hereby and heretofore propose:

The TV-Land conference
(named after a particularly cool new cable channel)

Your basic conference for discussing tv shows-- past present and future.
There are a million confs like this on usenet, where you see running 
items on individual shows and .etc (alt.tv.leaveittobeaver)  

I think TV-Land would be a popular conference because who doesnt watch 
tv, its part of all our lives.  And its the sort of conference that 
would be an easy sell to new users.  A lot of new users might come to 
grex if links to grex's "tvland" conf were put in occasional "alt.tv" 
posts and .etc  People rarely obsess about anything these days more than 
their favorite tv shows.

Grex needs a place where one can discuss the truly important 
things...like whether Arnold the Pig on 'Green Acres' was a communist 
sympathizer, or who was the best Darrin on 'Bewitched' 

The TV-Land conference.  I think it has possibilities.  As long as there 
arent too many "Beavis and Butthead" items that is...I hate "Beavis and 
Butthead"

aruba
response 3 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 21:29 UTC 1997

Sounds like a good idea to me.
bruin
response 4 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 22:25 UTC 1997

And bruin makes three.
gracel
response 5 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 19:58 UTC 1997

*I* don't watch TV; this sounds like a good conference to skip! <g>
richard
response 6 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 00:45 UTC 1997

gee gracel, and I thought you'd be a good co-fw too hehe...oh well...

btw, any true tv junkie out there who wants to be co-fw?  
valerie
response 7 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 02:17 UTC 1997

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senna
response 8 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 06:17 UTC 1997

Somehow, I had always thought there was one that I was missing.  If there
isn't, then its definitely a good idea.
arthurp
response 9 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 16 20:44 UTC 1997

I watch the new a couple time a month, but mainly...  Sounds like it'd 
be a popular conf, though.  :)
dang
response 10 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 17 22:30 UTC 1997

(I don't watch TV either, with the exception of Michigan Football Games (tm)
that I'm not at.)

Oops!  Mea culpa.  I meant to enter this item when I changed over co-op and
completely forget.  <sigh>  
snowth
response 11 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 01:16 UTC 1997

I never watch tv, but I would still read a conference about it. (It's like
how I don't write poetry, but I still regularly read the conf.) Good Idea!
krj
response 12 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 18 03:51 UTC 1997

So let's hurry it up, the new TV season is almost upon us.
raven
response 13 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 21 15:09 UTC 1997

As long as i get to enter the "Kill your television item" (I'm serious),
I will support the creation of this conference.
senna
response 14 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 05:11 UTC 1997

Too late, it's already there
davel
response 15 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 22 11:41 UTC 1997

But there won't be anything to prevent raven from entering his item.
raven
response 16 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 19:30 UTC 1997

Which I did in fact do.
valerie
response 17 of 134: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 22:32 UTC 1997

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keesan
response 18 of 134: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 00:23 UTC 1998

Valerie said to write in here as the proper format for suggesting a fix-it
column (suggestions for a better name welcome).  I thought it might go under
environment (fixing things rather than filling the dump), she suggested
dwellings (but that would not include small appliances and miscellaneous
gadgets) or consumer.  Maybe both consumer and environment and even
hippie?  Reduce, reuse, repair.  The idea is, people who want to fix
or improve their houses, large or small appliances, stereo and other
electronic equipment, assorted gadgets, vehicles including bicycles, or  
even to repair or make clothing or furniture or baskets or canoes, or
whatever, would write in asking for advice, and hopefully receive helpful
suggestions.  For instance, another Grexer kindly brought over
two dead fax machines, and perhaps someone out there could tell us what
usually goes wrong with a Brother power supply.
        My roommate has fixed things by telephone (furnace wiring, and a
cat-locked-into-a-room) and would love to share experience with anything
mechanical or electrical.  We are also building a house and can give
advice on insulation and weatherstripping.   In return, I could ask for
help with making pants that fit, etc.
        Perhaps this would not all go under fix-it.  Is there a more
encompassing name for such an advice conference, or should we keep
this to strictly repairs and not making new things?  Do It Yourself? 
        People could also write in listing what skills they have to offer,
and you would have the choice of writing them directly, or writing in to
the conference if you want suggestions from several sources.  I, for
instance, have experience making soap and can read Albanian.  This could
be a different conference.  There was something called the Skills Exchange
going in the early eighties for a few years, where people signed up to
trade hours of work doing what they did best.  I don't know how well this
would work as a conference.  In the real-life Skills Exchange, everyone
wanted someone to do their cleaning.  I am afraid in this case everyone
might want someone to help with their software problems.

valerie
response 19 of 134: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 07:07 UTC 1998

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valerie
response 20 of 134: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 07:08 UTC 1998

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dang
response 21 of 134: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 01:43 UTC 1998

I'd read such a cf.  Sounds neat. :)  ( I like "Do it Yourself" as a title)
keesan
response 22 of 134: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 01:58 UTC 1998

if nobody objects to a do it yourself conference, what do I do to start it?
Am I supposed to describe the purpose of it somewhere?
davel
response 23 of 134: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 03:05 UTC 1998

You've really done what you need to do to start it: requested it in this
item.  We now wait a little while for anyone who thinks it's a really
dumb idea to say so ... actually, to give people a chance to say things
like "that's already covered in the XYZ conference" and for you to reply
"Oh, I never realized there was an XYZ conf so I withdraw my request".
I don't think anyone's really likely to object in this case.  If cfadm
doesn't tell you in a few more days that it's been created, you bug cfadm
in email or scream really loud here, but that's not usually necessary.
If you don't want to FW it yourself, or all by yourself, you should be
scrounging for someone else, but from what you said I imagine you're
fine starting out all by yourself at least.

Note that our policy has always been to create conferences freely; others
may object, but the objections only make a difference if they convince
*you*.  (In some cases there have been objections which, on discussion,
have led to changes in the conception of the conference.  Look in the
ghosts of coops past for examples.)

You should be thinking of a capsule summary, suitable for the listing you get
by entering "help conf".  You should be busy designing the screens that come
up when people join & leave the conference, and (if you want) a "bulletin"
screen that they'll see only the first time (or if you change it).  But
there's no reason those have to be anything fancy unless *you* want to.
Oh, and you might consider any existing items in existing conferences
which might be good ones to link into your conference.

The only other thing I can think of is to see if you can locate the list of
special FW commands Valerie put together a long time ago - try item
26 in the info conference, maybe?
davel
response 24 of 134: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 03:05 UTC 1998

Oh, & I'd read such a conference, too.
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