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twenex
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MoD scientist linked to BBC leak found dead
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Jul 19 00:04 UTC 2003 |
A scientist employed by the British MoD (Ministry of Defence) was found dead
this weak after having been suspected of leaking information to the BBC which
suggested the claims made by the Government that Iraq could launch WMD within
45 mins. were false:
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/iraq/story/0,12956,1001129,00.html
The Govt. of the UK has promised an "independent judicial inquiry".
This looks very bad.
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twenex
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Jul 19 03:08 UTC 2003 |
Update: Apparently, preliminary reports indicated that he had committed
suicide. The Govt has in fact moved quickly this time (in marked contrast to
their attitude over suggestions there should be an independent inquiry into
the claims made on Iraq by Tony Blair and his Cabinet) and has already
appointed the judge who will be chairing the inquiry, which is expected to
report in September, as is the Foreign Office Committee of the House of
Commons, which has launched an investigation into the claims over WMD.
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jmsaul
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response 2 of 53:
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Jul 19 04:41 UTC 2003 |
According to the BBC, the guy was under a lot of stress, and looked terrible
when he testified before a Parliamentary committee. He may well have done
himself in.
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pvn
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response 3 of 53:
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Jul 19 05:55 UTC 2003 |
Like Vince Foster, uh huh.
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sabre
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response 4 of 53:
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Jul 19 11:41 UTC 2003 |
He was killed to silence him. The American goverment does it all the time.
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jmsaul
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response 5 of 53:
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Jul 19 18:01 UTC 2003 |
Re #3: Foster was a long-time clinical depressive, wasn't he?
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sj2
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response 6 of 53:
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Jul 19 18:30 UTC 2003 |
And the WMD saga continues ........
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sj2
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Jul 19 18:31 UTC 2003 |
Ahh!! The latest reports suggest that tha man slit his wrist!!
C'mon .... I thought guys in the CIA and MI6 were smarter than that. ;)
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jor
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response 8 of 53:
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Jul 20 00:14 UTC 2003 |
They sent Sandbagger 1
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gull
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response 9 of 53:
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Jul 20 19:33 UTC 2003 |
That's interesting, if true. Slitting your wrist isn't a particularly
quick or effective way to commit suicide, from what I've heard. Most
people who try it that way fail.
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twenex
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Jul 20 19:42 UTC 2003 |
Apparently he took co-proxamol (i believe that's the right spelling) - a
highly effective painkiller. must have sat there for ages, poor bastard.
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sj2
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Jul 20 19:55 UTC 2003 |
Though I still like the way BBC has been handling this. Not to say its
not biased in its reporting but its still the best around.
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janc
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Jul 21 00:17 UTC 2003 |
If I were the kind of person into conspiracy theories, I'd say that since
slitting one's wrists is probably the number one most stereotypical way to
commit suicide, it would be a good choice if you wanted to commit a murder
that looked like suicide.
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gull
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response 13 of 53:
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Jul 21 01:19 UTC 2003 |
I dunno. It'd be pretty tough to do to someone against their will
unless you drugged them first, and that would come out in the autopsy.
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janc
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Jul 21 01:50 UTC 2003 |
Yeah, but if you are positing a really nefarious high-level government
conspiracy, you'd expect it to be cleverly done - not an easy kill, but
a cleverly concocted simulation of a suicide. One shouldn't underestimate
the cleverness of those government spys when it comes to evading detection.
After all, look at Watergate or Contragate. Hmmm. On second thought, never
mind. The average government conspiracy is about as subtle as elephant poop
in a wine glass.
Ah ... but maybe that's what they *want* us to think....
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dcat
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response 15 of 53:
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Jul 21 02:03 UTC 2003 |
resp:13 - he'd apparently taken some pretty potent painkillers beforehand.
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polytarp
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response 16 of 53:
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Jul 21 03:07 UTC 2003 |
Yes, he was drugged.
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rcurl
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response 17 of 53:
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Jul 21 06:42 UTC 2003 |
I just don't see that anything he had done or not done would drive a person
to suicide. I would suspect some other event in his life to be the root
cause. Suppose he did leak information contradicting the government's claims.
A significant fraction of the citizenry would applaud that. He might lose
his job (giving the government a further black eye), but he would get job
offers on the basis of his action. How could any outcome alone be a strong
motivation for suicide? Of course, he may have been mentally ill in some
fashion, which could tip the scales.
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pvn
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Jul 21 07:09 UTC 2003 |
Yep. He was silenced. Its all part of the cover-up. You see, he was
actually killed on account of what he actually knew about the
Inslaw/Promis affair. What? You don't know about that one? THEY are
doing an excellent job of covering that one up.
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tod
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response 19 of 53:
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Jul 21 16:45 UTC 2003 |
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rcurl
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response 20 of 53:
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Jul 21 16:51 UTC 2003 |
But...what stress? There was no need for him to feel any stress, as far
as the information published indicates. Was he being threatened with
anything? Nothing published indicates that.
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tod
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Jul 21 17:05 UTC 2003 |
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rcurl
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response 22 of 53:
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Jul 21 17:30 UTC 2003 |
You mean, the Foreign Affairs Committee tortured him? I didn't read about
that. Otherwise, what is a "rough grilling"? You mean he committed suicide
because a committee asked him some questions? All he had to do was answer
their questions truthfully. Seems to me he could only *gain* credibility
as a whistle-blower. There had to be something else..."chercher la femme".
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tod
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Jul 21 17:43 UTC 2003 |
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rcurl
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response 24 of 53:
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Jul 22 00:38 UTC 2003 |
That seems pretty far fetched. Do people get into a funk any more because
their family might be embarrassed? I thought that went out with horse
carriages.
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