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eskarina
Too much Grex? Mark Unseen   Jun 30 22:34 UTC 2003

I had an experience today that gave me an idea for an item.  :)  I was being
bussed around Chicago, and I saw a sign that said "IHB Construction".  My knee
jerk, honest reaction was "What's happy about construction?"  Oh shoot...
that's a company, not the happy item!  

And I realized that I've probably been on grex too much/too long.  :)

So, what was your most recent experience that made you feel like you'd been
on grex too much/too long?
45 responses total.
rcurl
response 1 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jun 30 23:48 UTC 2003

I logged on for the third time today....
cross
response 2 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 1 05:46 UTC 2003

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scott
response 3 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 1 07:44 UTC 2003

I'm on vacation in Europe.  I should be out looking at things instead of
sitting in my brother's home office, reading Grex...
michaela
response 4 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 1 19:35 UTC 2003

Every once in a while, I catch myself trying to use ctrl-w in an instant
message program.
dcat
response 5 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 1 19:52 UTC 2003

This is probably more of a sign of too much use of various computers in
general:  i get my keymaps confused.

I ^U to clear a line in Emacs, and in PINE.  (In the former this is not a
problem, but in PINE this does exactly the opposite.)  I <ESC> before saving
in Emacs, and ^X^S in vi.  (Each comes from the other.)  There's actually a
whole series of Emacsisms I keep trying to use in PINE, and a few of them
actually work (^A/^E to beginning/end of line, for two), which only makes it
worse.

In the shell, I keep prefacing commands with !, which produces some. . .
interesting results.  

Just another (61) reason(s) I need to get a life that's more than Unix. . .
mdw
response 6 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 1 21:36 UTC 2003

I find it simplest to use one text editor for everything.
Well, 2 actually, but only one supports visual mode.
dcat
response 7 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 1 21:42 UTC 2003

I use Emacs in general, vi when i need something quick w/out waiting for emacs
to start up, pico for mail (i.e., the PINE composer), whatever the editor
picospan has for picospan, and ed very occasionally.

like i said, just another reason i need to get a life outside unix. . .
slestak
response 8 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 01:25 UTC 2003

Hey cross, how is plan 9? Also, I've given life without *nix a shot. It's not
so hot. "Too much" may even increase my productivity someday.
ea
response 9 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 01:48 UTC 2003

I've tried using my grex password on other systems.

Also, more of a general unix-ism, but I keep finding that "ls" doesn't 
work in most versions of MS-DOS.
cross
response 10 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 01:48 UTC 2003

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dcat
response 11 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 03:29 UTC 2003

I keep finding that attempting to use the control key on the Suns at the UGLi
only turns on the CapsLock.  After using those machines for a few hours, I
quite quickly discover the reverse on the next machine i use. . . .

(Suns' CapsLock and Control keys are reversed from their positions on the
Windows-compatible and Macintosh keyboards, although I gather the Sun style
is older (and thus its the PC & Mac kbs which are reversed).)

resp:9 - I can't remember the last time I used a DOS shell ;) but
occasionally i come across default shell rc files -- mostly in commercial Linux
distroes-- wherein 'dir' and 'vdir' are aliased to ls w/ appropriate options. .
.

resp:10 - what *is* Plan 9, exactly? 'it's not Unix' is about all I've
heard about it that I can remember. . . .
mdw
response 12 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 04:36 UTC 2003

It's a sort of distributed computing environment that attempts to have a
very light-weight implementation of all its parts, by reversing some
common computing paradigms.
pvn
response 13 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 06:02 UTC 2003

How well distributed is it on a laptop?
cross
response 14 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 18:14 UTC 2003

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gregb
response 15 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 18:33 UTC 2003

Lately, I'll sit in front of my 'puter, not knowing what I want to do, 
so I'll Grex.
gull
response 16 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 18:41 UTC 2003

Re #9: If you're running Win95 or later, install one of the UNIX tools
for Win32 packages.  (I don't mean Cygwin; there are some native ones.)
 Not only will you get 'ls', but having functioning 'ps' and 'kill'
commands is sometimes handy.  Having things like a Win32-native 'find'
command also lets you write more sophisticated batch files than you'd be
able to normally.
dcat
response 17 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 19:23 UTC 2003

resp:14 - wow.  i'll have to check that out sometime. . . 
  (unfortunately, i won't have a network at least till i get back to school
   in August.  But sometime after then. . .)
other
response 18 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 19:40 UTC 2003

re#14:  Wow.  That was quite a pitch.  It sounds like a significant 
advance in computer system design and function.  What your description 
really elicits from me in response, though, is the question, "So what are 
the biggest problems, flaws, faults, etcetera with Plan 9?"  Would you 
mind addressing that as well?
orinoco
response 19 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 19:49 UTC 2003

re #11: I find myself making the same mistake with the control and option keys
on my Macintosh keyboard, since I use the same finger for both.  Using control
instead of option is usually pretty innocuous.  Using option instead of
control does some strange, strange things.
cross
response 20 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 21:48 UTC 2003

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dcat
response 21 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 3 14:55 UTC 2003

re: too much computering: 
  http://images.ucomics.com/comics/nq/2003/nq030702.gif
gregb
response 22 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 3 15:18 UTC 2003

Phew!  I wore myself out reading all that.  B-)
jaklumen
response 23 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 10:19 UTC 2003

*That* was funny as hell, especially in regards to the Danae 
character.  I didn't think she'd be that isolationist, but hey, I 
suppose you can cut yourself off in cybersp...
slestak
response 24 of 45: Mark Unseen   Jul 6 22:48 UTC 2003

Thanks for the tutorial cross !! A few months back I took a look at Bell Labs
site for Plan 9, began reading through the install notes, but became side
tracked with Gentoo Linux. I like the 0% analogy. I'll dig into Plan 9 this
week and take it on as a new project. Cheers!!
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