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richard
The Man in Black RIP Mark Unseen   Sep 12 17:36 UTC 2003

Johnny Cash died today at the age of 71.  The legendary "Man in Black", 
he was to country music what Elvis Presley was to Rock and Roll.  Its 
greatest star.  His was the most legendary, most distinctive of all 
singing voices.  It was often said that if God had a voice, many people 
might imagine it would be the deep, soulful voice of Cash.  

I've been listening to Johnny Cash's music all my life.  He was a 
national treasure.  I remember when I was little, and I heard Johnny 
Cash and Bob Dylan doing a duet of Dylan's "Girl from the North 
Country", and being awestruck by his voice.  Johnny's "Ring of Fire" is 
one of my favorite songs.

Among his very best work were his last four albums, "American 
Recordings I-IV", where Cash covered classic pop and standard songs.  
Many of those songs are absolutely haunting, such as Johnny's cover 
version of the Nine Inch Nails "Hurt" on his last album.  

Some of Cash's very best albums were his live albums that he recorded 
in prisons, in front of prisoners.  Johnny Cash, who was born a 
sharecropper's son, always had a bond with the working man and sympathy 
for those who made mistakes.  "Johnny Cash Live from Folsom Prison", 
with Johnny singing in prison for the inmates, is one of the greatest 
of all live albums.  "Live from San Quentin" is really just as good.  
Early in his career he wore white on stage, but he lost his religion 
for a time and seriously abused drugs, and came to realize his music, 
his art, was in fact an exploration of the dark side of his soul, not 
just his love of God, but his conflict with God.  Johnny Cash 
became "The Man in Black", always dressed in black ever since, and he 
became a legend.

Johnny Cash RIP, an american original.  I treasure his albums.







30 responses total.
albaugh
response 1 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 17:56 UTC 2003

I too remember Johnny Cash from my youth.  "A boy named Sue", "Folsom Prison",
etc.  Since I'm 1/2 Cash, we adopted him as an honorary relative.  There was
something strangely endearing about his gravelly voice.  I won't say that he
was country music's greatest star, but he certainly was an icon.
scott
response 2 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 18:42 UTC 2003

Farewell, Johnny.  The first goth rock star, decades ahead of the trend.
richard
response 3 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 19:18 UTC 2003

Highwayman by Johnny Cash

I was a highwayman. Along the coach roads I did ride 
With sword and pistol by my side 
Many a young maid lost her baubles to my trade 
Many a soldier shed his lifeblood on my blade 
The bastards hung me in the spring of twenty-five 
But I am still alive. 

I was a sailor. I was born upon the tide 
And with the sea I did abide. 
I sailed a schooner round the Horn to Mexico 
I went aloft and furled the mainsail in a blow 
And when the yards broke off they said that I got killed 
But I am living still. 

I was a dam builder across the river deep and wide 
Where steel and water did collide 
A place called Boulder on the wild Colorado 
I slipped and fell into the wet concrete below 
They buried me in that great tomb that knows no sound 
But I am still around..I'll always be around..and around and around and 
around and around 

I fly a starship across the Universe divide 
And when I reach the other side 
I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can 
Perhaps I may become a highwayman again 
Or I may simply be a single drop of rain 
But I will remain 
And I'll be back again, and again and again and again and again...
tpryan
response 4 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 20:27 UTC 2003

        Another one who made it to Hillbilly Heaven.

        IIRC the Folson prison album was recently re-leased on CD (at least
the second re-release) with more material, more intersong patter, and
original bleeps removed (such as for Boy Named Sue). 

        Best comfort in your reward, Johny Cash.
richard
response 5 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 01:55 UTC 2003

RE: #4...."hillbilly heaven"?  I'm sorry but that sounds classist and
derogatory.  Is your heaven different than those of people you call
"hillbillys"?
jep
response 6 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 03:14 UTC 2003

Johnny Cash is my mother's favorite singer.  She'll be returning from 
her vacation tomorrow.  I wonder if she's heard the news yet.

Johnny Cash was not the Elvis of country (that would be Hank 
Williams); he was more like the Rolling Stones.  He endured.  He kept 
singing, and people kept buying his albums.

He was the best of the prison singers, but he never spent time in 
prison.  I never knew that until today.

My favorite Cash song: "I Walk The Line".  He started with his 
cavernous voice, then it goes deeper for the 2nd voice... deeper yet 
for the 3rd... and then it goes *down*.
gelinas
response 7 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 04:05 UTC 2003

(According to his biography, _The Man in Black_, Mr. Cash wore black because
"[it] was better for church."  He started out singing in church, and just
about always expected to be there again.  According to the song, "The Man in
Black", he wore black in mourning for the nation during the Viet Nam conflict.
He started wearing other colours with the black, like white shirts, after the
POWs came home.)
md
response 8 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 12:33 UTC 2003

"Hillbilly" is simply descriptive nowadays, although the tone can 
range from condescending to neutral to affectionate depending on who's 
talking.  It's like "yuppie," "trailer trash," "upper west sider" or 
even "grexer."  

(I suspect "nigger" might be on its way there, but it's too soon to 
tell if it'll make it.  Grexers could take a lesson from African 
Americans by calling each other "grexer."  "What are you carrying on 
about, grexer?  You sound like a Republican.")
slynne
response 9 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 12:40 UTC 2003

HAHAHA! Wassup Grexer?

Grexer Puh-leez
gelinas
response 10 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 13:14 UTC 2003

("Peter sucked in his breath and his wrinkled brow showed deep furrows
but he kept his eyes straight ahead.  He had never had the term "nigger"
applied to him by a white person in all his life.  By other negroes, yes,
but never by a white person" (_Gone with the Wind_, p 474).  Peter is a
former slave; a Yankee in Atlanta had just said, "Look at that old nigger
swell up like a toad.")
md
response 11 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 13:16 UTC 2003

Fuh shexxle, mah grexxle.
bruin
response 12 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 14:02 UTC 2003

My all-time favorite Johnny Cash song - "One Piece At A Time" (a novelty song
about building a Cadillac over several years from stolen car parts).
cmcgee
response 13 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 13 23:29 UTC 2003

"Hillbilly Heaven" is a classic country song that's a roll-call of legendary
country singers.  Forgotten who did it.
happyboy
response 14 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 00:04 UTC 2003

it sounds pretty forgettable.
bruin
response 15 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 01:19 UTC 2003

"Hillbilly Heaven", ironically enough, was recorded by Tex Ritter, whose son
John also died over the last few days.
bru
response 16 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 01:34 UTC 2003

Ring of fire    is my favorite Cash sing.
gelinas
response 17 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 03:15 UTC 2003

I like "A Thing Called Love" and "Nearer My God to Thee" (which is NOT the
well-known hymn, but does refer to it).
richard
response 18 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 05:33 UTC 2003

Johnny Cash was a huge influence on the world of music.  Johnny and 
Hank Williams are the only two peope to have been inducted into both 
the country and rock and roll hall of fames.  Here are a few quotes 
about the great Johnny Cash, from his peers in the industry:

 I loved big John with all my heart. The citizens of the world have 
lost one of their most enduring guiding lights. As a musical hero to 
millions, a trailblazing artist, humanitarian, spiritual leader, social 
commentator and most importantly, patriarch to one of the most varied 
and colorful extended families imaginable, Johnny Cash will, like Will 
Rogers, stand forever as a symbol of intelligence, creativity, 
compassion and common sense. I m thinking Mount Rushmore.  
  Rodney Crowell (musician and ex-husband of Rosanne Cash) 

 Johnny Cash transcends all musical boundaries and is one of the 
original outlaws.  
  Willie Nelson 

 I was in the prison band in San Quentin when I first saw Johnny Cash. 
I was impressed with his ability to take 5,000 convicts and steal the 
show away from a bunch of strippers. That s pretty hard to do.  
  Merle Haggard 

 God is not making any more.  
  Nick Lowe 

 I want to thank you for standing up for me way back when.  
  Bob Dylan 

 Locusts and honey ... not since John the Baptist has there been a 
voice like that crying in the wilderness. The most male voice in 
Christendom. Every man knows he is a sissy compared to Johnny Cash.  
  Bono 

 I heard him sing my song  I Won t Back Down,  and I just 
thought,  God, he must have written that,  because it never rang so 
true to me as when I heard him sing it.  
  Tom Petty 

 He s always there, the tallest figure in the circle of integrity, the 
deepest voice when night comes down, and the bravest take on sanity in 
the midst of wild confusion. Thank you, sir. The generations will be 
listening.  
  Leonard Cohen

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I met Johnny Cash at the Mean fiddkler in Harlsden , back in the early 
nineties when the arter family played there, and he made a surprise 
appearance, along with Joe Brown, Nick Lowe and Elvis Costello. June 
Carter was a really sweet person and Johnny Cash was reserved, very 
Southern and a Gentleman. He introduced himself the same way as he did 
on the live albums "Hello I'm Johnny Cash" and shook my hand while I 
babbled and gushed.
Normally I try and avoid meeting people I admire because they can't 
match up to what you expect. Johnny Cash, George Harrison, Joe Strummer 
matched and surpassed expectations. I guess 71 isn't too young but 
there are far too many arseholes still walking around while the good 
guys aren't with us any more.

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mjm4u 
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  posted 09-13-2003 06:02 PM                       
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Does anyone remember "The Wanderer"?--it was on a U2 album (Zooropa?) 
and Johnny was singing it--awesome song.

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And now, for the 3 people living in my house, and the millions watching 
at home on Pay Per View ....

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  posted 09-13-2003 07:23 PM                          
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Some more quotes from around the music industry, including one from 
Trent Reznor, writer of Hurt:

"Not only has the world lost a legend, but we in country music have 
lost one of our family. I know both Johnny and June will always be 
looking down and watching over us all. The stars in heaven are just a 
little brighter.    Loretta Lynn

 This is a very sad day for me as well as for millions of music fans 
around the world. John was a very dear friend -- we had a long history 
together. We both went through a lot of messes in the old days but 
ended up realizing what was important in life and changed our ways. I 
just went out and visited him a few weeks ago and he looked so good and 
was busy recording new material. I know that the angels will sing today 
and heaven is a better place with the addition of Johnny Cash. I'm sure 
he is happier now that he is with his beloved June.    George Jones

 The world has lost a legend, and I have lost a friend. Johnny Cash was 
the rare soul who could be both.    Emmylou Harris

 Johnny Cash has only passed into the greater light ... he will never, 
ever die. He will only become more important in this industry as time 
goes by. I'm sure he's happy today now that he s with June.    Dolly 
Parton

 A man in black stepped through three pearly white gates today into the 
waiting arms of his angel June Carter Cash. Mortal man may be saddened, 
but heaven's singing.    Ronnie Dunn, Brooks & Dunn

 I have lost one of my best friends. It leaves a dark void in my life 
that is blacker than any coat he ever wore. He is irreplaceable. Even 
in death I have no doubt that Johnny Cash will continue to live on as 
an inspiration to musicians and songwriters and all of America.    
Marty Stuart

"To hear that Johnny was interested in doing my song was a defining 
moment in my life's work. To hear the result really reminded me how 
beautiful, touching and powerful music can be. The world has truly lost 
one of the greats. My heart goes out to his family and friends."   
Trent Reznor, Nine Inch Nails

"Johnny Cash was one of the most amazing people to grace the earth. His 
talents as a songwriter and an artist speak for themselves. I'm 
grateful to Rick Rubin for the opportunity to work him and Johnny on 
American IV: The Man Comes Around. It was a true honor. To witness him 
receive his first gold record in 30 years was one of the proudest 
moments for all of us at Lost Highway. He and Rick made beautiful music 
together. Johnny Cash was a beautiful person."   Luke Lewis, president 
of Lost Highway Records

"Johnny touched so many lives in this business. One of the greatest 
learning experiences of my life was a four-hour cross-country plane 
ride with Johnny and June. They showed me that it's possible to use 
celebrity to do good in the world, and at the same time, to enjoy 
life." -- Suzy Bogguss 

 I considered myself a friend, he considered me a fan -- he indulged 
me. He showed me around his house, his ranch, his zoo, his faith, his 
musicianship -- it was a lot to take in. He was more than wise. In a 
garden full of weeds -- the oak tree.    Bono, U2

 It's really hard to put into words all the things I feel about Johnny 
Cash. I learned to play guitar by learning about a hundred songs by 
Johnny Cash, who was my hero as a songwriter. As a man, he was the rock 
of our nation. Growing up, I remember watching him on The Johnny Cash 
Show and seeing him play "John Henry" -- just being floored by that. He 
was such a dynamic personality, a great leader, and he always stood for 
the right things. So, how can you even begin to put into words a loss 
like that?    Kix Brooks, Brooks & Dunn

 The day that we would lose Johnny Cash is a day which I think we have 
all dreaded quietly and secretly until now, and sadly enough, that day 
is here. I'm grateful to him for being a rebel and pushing boundaries 
that have encouraged us to not only grow and live but thrive beyond the 
confines of the 'norm'. He was our Beacon in Black and the Gentle Giant 
of our most progressive musical generation. We will miss your long, 
tall shadow. Much love to your family, Johnny.    Deana Carter

 I don't know if I can say this, but it's how I feel. ... To me, Johnny 
Cash was the original bad ass in music. Not just country music, but all 
music. Everybody strives to be universal, but he was the first one to 
make it so ... to make it where everybody could see themselves in the 
songs, in that music. When you can give people all that, their dignity, 
their power, then you've really made a mark -- and that's the kind of 
mark that will last beyond forever.    Kenny Chesney

 Growing up in Medicine Hat, everything seemed larger than life ... but 
few things seemed larger than life than Johnny Cash.   That voice, as 
close to the voice of God as mortal man can get -- and it was a voice 
that was only lifted for the right things, righteous causes, the people 
no one wanted to recognize. Johnny Cash rocked hard. Harder than 
anyone. But what really made him stand out, more than the backbeats, 
the TV shows, the hit records, was how he stood up for the little 
people, the way he believed in the right things. ... He was a beacon 
for both musical and personal integrity, and he set a bar most of us 
can only gaze at and dream of, which is the best inspiration of all.    
Terri Clark

 I feel music has lost one of its great heroes and the country has lost 
one of its most authentic voices. I will miss knowing he is continuing 
to express what everyone feels through his music, but I will mostly 
miss the man.    Sheryl Crow

 It's a sad day in country music today. Johnny Cash's voice was 
arguably one of the most recognizable and influential in country music. 
It's devastating to lose two great country artists in the same year. 
Johnny Cash and his wife June Carter Cash were truly a dynamic force in 
shaping the music industry. Our thoughts and prayers are with their 
family.    Natalie Maines, Dixie Chicks

 Johnny Cash was not only bigger than country music; he was bigger than 
life. The world will never be the same without the man in black.    
Andy Griggs

 Johnny Cash broke all the rules and transcended musical barriers. His 
attitude, his style and his music made him a true original. Who else 
could knock on the doors of the pearly gates wearing black?    Faith 
Hill

 From  I Walk the Line  to  Hurt,  Johnny Cash was a distinct and 
original voice of American music and can't be replaced.    Alan Jackson

 His influence spread over many generations. I loved him as singer and 
a writer. I remember years ago a big part of our repertoire was two of 
my favorite Johnny Cash songs, 'I Walk the Line' and 'Ballad of a 
Teenage Queen.    Mick Jagger, the Rolling Stones

 Johnny Cash has always seemed larger than life to me. He is a true 
American hero, beloved the world over as much for his kindness and 
compassion and championing of the underdog as for the power of his art. 
He s been my inspiration, my faithful friend, my champion -- a constant 
oasis of unconditional love and support. His fiercely independent and 
free spirit, balanced with his love of family, children and his fellow 
man, will stand as a shining example of the best of what it means to be 
human. And he was damned funny, even in the darkest times.
I love you, John
In the cold and Holy darkness
You were always shining brighter than a star
God bless you, John
For the love and joy you ve given
And the living inspiration that you are.    Kris Kristofferson

"It's a sad day in Tennessee, but a great day in heaven. The Man in 
Black is now wearing white as he joins his wife June in the angel 
band."   Merle Kilgore, best-man to Johnny Cash at his wedding to June 
Carter Cash and co-writer (with June) of the classic "Ring of Fire 

 Bigger then any musical genre was Johnny Cash. He was an American 
music icon that set the standard for how to make music on your own 
terms. We will miss him.    Tim McGraw 

 Even though all of us try to wear black, there will only ever be one 
Man in Black. I hate to see our outlaw heroes leave because they have 
influenced country music so much. I don't know that anyone can stand on 
the mountain like they have."   Eddie Montgomery, Montgomery Gentry

"I think his love for his wife will be his greatest legacy. Everybody 
will always talk about his music, but for me, the one thing that I will 
always remember the most about Johnny Cash is how much he loved his 
wife, and it was always known."   Craig Morgan

"Both the Carter and Cash families have had such an impact on the Dirt 
Band. To lose June earlier this year, it was such a loss. It's hard to 
take all this in. ... I spoke to John Carter last week, and he said his 
Dad was doing so great, I was even kinda looking forward to him being 
at the CMA Awards, even if it was just sitting in the audience. So I 
guess like so many people around the world today, we'll all be missing 
Johnny Cash. It's a big hole ... and you can't even think about filling 
it." -- Jeff Hanna, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band 

"The world has lost a great American friend. The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band 
has been fortunate to have been told we have spanned a generation with 
our music, but Mr. Cash has spanned generations as well as 
international borders and brought everybody into his life. If anybody 
wants to know what the heart of country music is about, just plug into 
any part of Johnny Cash's recordings. The great love story that is 
Johnny Cash and June Carter Cash will now continue again." -- John 
McEuen, Nitty Gritty Dirt Band 

 Country music has never had a more powerful personality than Johnny 
Cash. So much can be said about this incredible man. Rock, country and 
gospel will be fighting to claim his music as their own -- and, in the 
end, they all get to. He brought a Memphis rock  n  roll attitude to 
country music and all things good about country to rock -- and married 
both of these to gospel music at the same time. There will never be 
anyone like him ever again.  -- Brad Paisley

 He was just one of those guys that didn't try to be cool, and that's 
what made him so cool -- he was just himself.  -- Charlie Robison

 Generations come and go in country music. It is easy sometimes for the 
heroes of this genre to be overlooked, but Johnny Cash could not be 
forgotten. He was, he is, and always will be the epitome of country 
music. I regret deeply that I have not nurtured a closer personal 
friendship, but he certainly knew he had my respect." -- Kenny Rogers 

"He was the most patriotic Christian I've ever known. A true American 
he was." -- Billy Joe Shaver 

 It's an extremely sad day for all of us in the music community. Johnny 
Cash had such a tremendous impact and influence on so many of us. I 
don't know of any other artist who had such a wide appeal across every 
music genre. As a friend, he will be sorely missed. As an influence, he 
will continue to live on.  -- Travis Tritt

 Johnny Cash was one of the first concerts that I ever saw. I was 10. I 
remember the spotlight beam just above my head cutting through the 
smoke, hitting his guitar. It was at that moment that I realized my own 
destiny. I'm as saddened as anyone, but I'm sure that there is a sense 
of peace in knowing that he's now reunited with June. I guess that 
makes his passing a bit easier.  -- Keith Urban

"Johnny Cash was singled out -- a truly great artist. Unique and one of 
a kind. He was a great American, and his music was the spirit of 
America -- all that is good about this great country. No matter what 
situation we find ourselves in playing music, we can never go wrong 
playing a Johnny Cash song. We're going to miss him." -- Tony 
Villanueva, the Derailers

"I can never remember a time when June Carter Cash and Johnny Cash were 
apart. A vibrant memory I have of them was one where I got to work with 
them at an Academy of Achievement dinner. These weekends were designed 
to be an opportunity for specialists in the fields of arts and sciences 
to speak to young people to inspire them to excel. That was very much 
representative of June Carter and Johnny's life, inspiring us and 
holding each other's hands along the way.   The thing that's most on my 
mind today was their companionship as well as the way June Carter 
always took such great care of Johnny. It was the sweetest kind of 
love. I would stare at them during this one particular weekend, so 
awestruck by their tenderness towards one another.   I am getting 
married in November and something I will take with me as I walk down 
the aisle is how inspired I feel by the love of June Carter and Johnny. 
They were together for so many years. It was always Johnny and June 
Carter, never one without the other. My heart is breaking today and yet 
at peace to know how quickly he went to be with her. I just know with 
all of my heart that they were never apart for very long and what a 
sweet love they had together. Now they are together for all eternity." -
- Wynonna

"I'm just shocked and saddened and still finding myself stunned by the 
news of his passing but am eternally grateful for ever having had the 
opportunity to know him and to share a friendship with him. I will be 
forever honored that John allowed me the privilege of his company." -- 
Dwight Yoakam
 
 
happyboy
response 19 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 08:27 UTC 2003

very nice...
tod
response 20 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 14 17:33 UTC 2003

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albaugh
response 21 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 17:24 UTC 2003

From #6:

> He was the best of the prison singers, but he never spent time in prison.
> I never knew that until today.

I would be happy to learn that myself, as I had gotten the impression that
he *had* been in prison, or at least jail.  My cursory attemmpts to find
something definite on the web turned up entry.  Can anyone provide a source,
one way or the other?
tpryan
response 22 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 17:31 UTC 2003

re 5:
        You can find lyrics to "Hillbilly Heaven" with a google
search.  Another version, also recorded by Tex Ritter, had
Johnny Cash in the Big Tally Book.
tod
response 23 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 17:38 UTC 2003

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edina
response 24 of 30: Mark Unseen   Sep 15 17:57 UTC 2003

My favorite quote was from Kris Kristofferson, as I remember when Johnny Cash
was given a Kennedy Center Honor, and Kristofferson was there, leading the
tribute.  It's when I realized that there was more to Kristofferson and when
I realized that Johnny Cash was not a well man and to be more appreciative.
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