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eprom
Random Thoughts Mark Unseen   Aug 22 03:19 UTC 2003

some random thoughts....
39 responses total.
eprom
response 1 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 03:19 UTC 2003

hmmm......I was just thinking....

almost all the years of the last millenium were pronounced
in a two digit by two digit format; such as ten-sixty-six 
for (10)(66). And all last century everything was:

nineteen-oh-one, nineteen-ten, nineteen-ninety-nine, etc..

so shouldn't this year be refered to as twenty-oh-three 
instead of two-thousand-three?
gelinas
response 2 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 03:33 UTC 2003

Probably, but I suspect folks will stick with "two-thousand" at least
through the end of this decade.  I started to write, "through the end of
this century", but I think "twenty-ten" will turn the trick.
tod
response 3 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 13:21 UTC 2003

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gull
response 4 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 13:44 UTC 2003

I think it's because 'twentyhundred' just doesn't sound right, so people
said 'two thousand' instead.  It's sort of stuck after that.
novomit
response 5 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 13:46 UTC 2003

They dont have to say 'twenty hundred', they could say something like 'twenty
oh three'. 
gull
response 6 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 13:52 UTC 2003

Right, but I'm saying that when the year rolled over to 2000, people
said 'two thousand'.  In 1900, I bet they said 'nineteen hundred'.  I
think that set the pattern of speech for at least the next few years.
novomit
response 7 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 13:58 UTC 2003

Yeah, I agree. But then again "Nineteen hundred" rolls off the tongue a little
easier than "one thousand nine hundred and naught". ;) 
tod
response 8 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 16:00 UTC 2003

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albaugh
response 9 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 16:47 UTC 2003

All things purchaseable from a TV ad are $19.95.
tod
response 10 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 17:06 UTC 2003

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albaugh
response 11 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 22 19:47 UTC 2003

"If you order now..."
remmers
response 12 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 02:28 UTC 2003

I pronounce the current year "EM EM EYE EYE EYE".
gelinas
response 13 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 04:16 UTC 2003

(I suspect at least part of the usage of '2000' stems from the wide-spread
discussion of the "Y2K bug.")
twenex
response 14 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 14:32 UTC 2003

From an amateur quasi-linguist perspective, (make of that what you will), the
"two thousand and three" usage probably arises from the fact that the word
"twenty" ends in a vowel, whereas (for example), "nineteen" in "nineteen oh
one" ends in a consonant, which makes it easier to say (some languages either
reduce one vowel in a group of two or more to a diphthong - like "Bay" - or
prohibit anything but consonant-vowel or vowel-consonant combinations).
sno
response 15 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 14:55 UTC 2003

I prefer duo-deca-centa-trey
rcurl
response 16 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 20:40 UTC 2003

Re #14: you can avoid that problem by giving the date in octal, which
is "thirty seven twenty three" (base 8). 
pvn
response 17 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 22:42 UTC 2003

God, what a geek.
rcurl
response 18 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 23 23:59 UTC 2003

Thank you!
pvn
response 19 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 01:57 UTC 2003

You should.
jaklumen
response 20 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 05:22 UTC 2003

*chuckle*
sholmes
response 21 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 07:21 UTC 2003

re 16: No such number as thirty seven in octal :)
gelinas
response 22 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 15:07 UTC 2003

37[8] would be 31[10].  3700[8] is 1984[10].

Why not pronounce "37[8]" as "thirty-seven"?
russ
response 23 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 20:24 UTC 2003

Know why programmers can't tell the difference between
Christmas and Halloween?

31(OCT) = 25(DEC).
rcurl
response 24 of 39: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 20:56 UTC 2003

Re #21: interesting point. "thirty" is certainly a decimal quantity - but
then we don't have a compact way of *stating* octal numbers. How should
one state 3723[8]? Just saying "three seven two three" works, but we use a
verbal shorthand in [10] by saying "thirty seven twenty three". What is
the verbal shorthand for 37[8] since, as pointed out, "thirty" is not an
octal quantity?

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