response 1 of 72:

Jun 24 14:51 UTC 2003

 Last night the Associated Press posted on their national newswire a list of
73 "suicide bombing attacks," carefully and pointedly noting for each attack
the number of Israelis, if any, that were killed. (See list below.)

The Associated Press releases regular summaries of Palestinian attacks on
Israelis; for a previous example, see last month's "Chronology of suicide
attacks against Israel"
(http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2002/06/19/bombings-glance.htm).

However, we have yet to find a single AP summary detailing for the same time
period a history of Israeli attacks against Palestinians, with accountings
for each of the 1,768 Palestinian deaths. For that matter, we have yet to see
on the AP any of the following:

    * Overviews of the 148 Palestinians killed by Israel's illegal policy of
assassination of Palestinian political leaders;
    * Checklists describing the circumstances of the wounding of over 7,000
Palestinian children (this is UNICEF's estimate);
    * Dated flowcharts accounting for the 2,500 Palestinians permanently
disabled by Israeli attacks, 500 of them children;
    * Chronologies of Israeli attacks on Palestinian Emergency Medical
Personnel & Services, and Israeli Shelling of Palestinian Hospitals;
    * Timelines of the 15 on-duty Palestinian doctors and ambulance drivers
murdered by Israeli forces, and the 180 Red Cross Emergency Medical
Technicians attacked;
    * Checklists on the 64 Palestinians who have died due to Israeli
prevention of access to medical treatment;
    * Charts describing the 167 journalists attacked by the IDF;
    * Overviews of the roughly 15,000 Palestinians arbitrarily detained in
mass detentions over the last 2 months alone;
    * Timelines examining the Israeli shelling and demolition of over 1,600
Palestinian homes. *(all above stats from The Palestine Monitor)

Data for these categories is readily available from various sources, such as:

    * The Palestine Monitor
    * The Palestine Center for Human Rights
    * The Palestinian Crescent Society

http://www.pmwatch.org/pmw/cast/ap.asp

response 3 of 72:

Jun 25 00:04 UTC 2003

Leer on, perhaps you don't understand history, but Palestine was a state as
much as any other place in the region.

Additionally, don't think we don't understand your anger towards oval; you
just hate women.

response 5 of 72:

Jun 25 03:23 UTC 2003

Leeron is homosexual?

response 7 of 72:

Jun 25 06:29 UTC 2003

Who's going to Toronto for Pride.  Wanna do coffee?

John, you could also minimize the difference between someone getting
run-over in a car accident as being no different to the injured party
from being intentionally run-down with a car. Our value system (both
domestic and international law) does distinguish between inadvertant
deaths in war and the intentional murder of innocent civilians by terrorists.

Make no mistake about it. These terrorists INTENTIONS are to murder as
many innocent civilians as possible. They are the TARGET. On the flip
side, these civilians hide behind the civilian population, thus they
are the ones endagering those civilians. Israel does what it can to
prevent them harm, sometimes at great cost to its own forces (e.g.
sending soldiers into the death-trap of Jenin rather than bombarding
the terrorist strongholds with artillery or from the air).

I also think there is a huge difference between assassinating a
democratically elected civilian leader (e.g. JFK or the late Israeli
Minister of Tourism Ze'evi) and the pre-emptive killing of illegal
combatants who are engaged in the business of murdering innocents.

Phil, please enlighten me as to what you're being taught in history
class. When did a state of "Palestine" ever exist (other than as a
League of Nations Mandate following WW I and until 1948)? As a follow-up
homework assignment, when did Arabs last control the territory that is
now Israel proper?

response 9 of 72:

Jun 25 08:26 UTC 2003

ya leeron, you can't ask him to use his brain!  It might expand with dire
consequences.

response 11 of 72:

Jun 25 13:38 UTC 2003

Re #4: The Israelis have better control, certainly, but they do seem to
feel Palastinian lives are cheap.  Otherwise they wouldn't have fired
multiple missile rounds from helicopters into a busy intersection in an
attempt to hit a single person.

response 13 of 72:

Jun 25 13:47 UTC 2003

        Is #10 serious at all?

response 15 of 72:

Jun 25 15:37 UTC 2003

As is the case in most wars, gull, one side thinks that the lives of many
of its civilians are more worthy than the POTENTIAL collateral damage of
the opponents. There is no moral equivalence here. The Geneva Conventions
allow attacking targets despite the possibility of some danger to the
civilian population. Yet the intentional targeting and bombing of
innocent civilians is murderous terrorism and a crime against humanity.

Poly, aside from the British Mandate in that name, when was there ever
an Arab state of "Palestine"?  When was the last time Arabs controlled
this land and what was their status?

I can't believe he doesn't know something so basic.
Can anyone help him?

response 17 of 72:

Jun 25 16:28 UTC 2003

yes it is a joke dark humor has it merits. It a way of venting frustration
at an on-going issue that will never be solved.Actually I'm tired of the
Israeli position also.The constant bickering between the two have become a
burden that the whole world must bear.You know the deal..first a suicide bombs
the Jews..then Jews bomb the Arabs whih causes another suicide attack which
then causes another reprisal form the Jews which then causes another sucide
attack(whew). The cycle seems to be unstoppable.I do however fault the Arabs
I never heard of a Jewish suicide bomber or a Jewish terrorist act.
I suppose an Arab bigot would claim that the Jewish reprisals are terror
attacks. They are are however reactions from a legit albeit frustarated
goverment.Oval you are the pot calling the kettle black. Your anti-semite
rambling and dripple proved 
your own bigotry
'."

response 19 of 72:

Jun 25 16:36 UTC 2003

        Uhm, you have to be pretty good to succesfully post sarcasm or very
dry humor online. 

response 21 of 72:

Jun 25 16:53 UTC 2003

Perhaps I was too pessamistic
Hamas, Islamic Jihad OK Truce With Israel
see here for details:
http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/I/ISRAEL_PALESTINIANS?SITE=TNMEM&S
ECT
ION=US