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Ballmobile II Mark Unseen   May 15 23:36 UTC 2006

There is talk of replacing the (broken) car driven by Mrs.
ball with a "mini-van".  We have found that installing a
child seat significantly reduces useable space, especially
when it is occupied (no folding down the rear seats, piling
up boxes in the rear passenger seat etc.)  Ballmobile II
should be as fuel-efficient as is practical (E-85? Mrs. ball
will veto BioDiesel), should be reliable and hopefully not
be absolutely horrible to drive.
91 responses total.
keesan
response 1 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 16 02:15 UTC 2006

How fuel-efficient is practical?  Our 1986 Toyota got at least 40 miles per
gallon on hills.  
ball
response 2 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 16 05:48 UTC 2006

Presumably downhill.  The 2005 Toyota station wagon that I
drive yielded about 32 miles per gallon (about 7 l/100km)
when it was new.  I haven't checked recently.  That's with a
small, docile 1.9 litre 4-cylinder gasoline (petrol) engine.
keesan
response 3 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 17 01:28 UTC 2006

We got this going up and down steep hills in Vermont, actually it was closer
to 50 mpg.  
nharmon
response 4 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 17 12:07 UTC 2006

50mpg??? For some reason I doubt this.
keesan
response 5 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 17 17:39 UTC 2006

We calculated miles and gallons. 
nharmon
response 6 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 17 18:08 UTC 2006

This was a Toyota, are you sure you didn't pull a Nasa?
keesan
response 7 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 17 22:52 UTC 2006

What is a Nasa?
slynne
response 8 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 17 22:57 UTC 2006

I think it is a reference to NASA (the space agency) confusing imperial
and metric measurements. 
tod
response 9 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 17 23:02 UTC 2006

re #7
Its Romanian for g-dmother
ball
response 10 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 17 23:26 UTC 2006

Re #3: Was this in a petrol/gasoline vehicle or Diesel?
gull
response 11 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 18 02:51 UTC 2006

I've seen improvements of 10% or more in some cars just by driving
slowly.  I've also seen some cars where the odometer was wildly
inaccurate, due to the wrong size tires.
ball
response 12 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 18 16:03 UTC 2006

I would like to drive slower than I do most days, but my
schedule is a limiting factor.
n8nxf
response 13 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 19 17:27 UTC 2006

We use to have a Toyota Corolla (1.8L gas) that would get 50mpg on the freeway
at 60 MPH but never with stop & go driving.  We even ran the tires at 40 psi.
The new Corolla use to get 40 MPG average but new, safer, Michelin HydroEdge
tires cut that down to about 33 MPG.
keesan
response 14 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 19 23:52 UTC 2006

I think ours is a Corolla.  1987, four-door.  
ball
response 15 of 91: Mark Unseen   May 20 02:07 UTC 2006

The Matrix that I drive is basically a Corolla station
wagon.  I have to go some way tomorrow, so perhaps I'll get
to check the fuel consumption.
ball
response 16 of 91: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 00:47 UTC 2006

I drove my wife's car to work today and it broke down on the
off-ramp of the Interstate.  I've had it towed to a place
that will hopefully have a look at it tomorrow morning.  In
view of at least one known problem (a bent valve) I would
not be surprised to learn that it was beyond economical
repair. Certainly my wife's initial reaction to the news was
to suggest that we go vehicle shopping tomorrow.

Potential new vehicles that she's mentioned already are a
Toyota Camry (large sedan) or a mini-van of some kind (which
I imagine would have worse fuel economy, but more room
inside).
keesan
response 17 of 91: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 01:33 UTC 2006

Why do you want more room in the car?  It would probably be cheaper to rent
a truck once a year if you need to carry large things.  Also to buy another
used vehicle.
tod
response 18 of 91: Mark Unseen   Oct 13 03:36 UTC 2006

It'd be cheaper to ride a bike but not everybody wants to live like Ted
Kaczynski, Cindy.
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