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sj2
Don't joke at the airport Mark Unseen   Aug 9 20:55 UTC 2003

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sj2
response 1 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 9 20:57 UTC 2003

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3138219.stm

Pilot held over air 'joke'
 
The Paris-bound flight was delayed as a result of the incident 
An Air France pilot has been arrested at New York's John F Kennedy 
Airport after reportedly joking at a security checkpoint that he had a 
bomb in his shoes. 

A Port Authority spokeswoman said the pilot was detained after making 
what she described as an inappropriate remark. 

The pilot, who was not identified, was later charged with falsely 
reporting an incident. 

Flight AF009, which had been due to leave New York late on Friday, was 
delayed as a result and 350 passengers had to stay in local hotels 
overnight. 

The flight eventually left for Paris Charles de Gaulle airport after a 
new co-pilot flew in from Paris, an Air France spokesman in Paris told 
BBC News Online. 

The airline said the pilot had been arrested following "misinterpreted 
remarks". 

A witness told the French news agency AFP that the man had jokingly 
referred to a bomb in his shoes as he passed through security. 
Airport police detained him and he is due to appear before a judge, as 
early as Sunday, on charges which could result in a jail term of up to 
11 years, the agency said. 
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11 years!! They can't be serious!! 

glenda
response 2 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 9 21:06 UTC 2003

Just another very sharp clue that the terrorists won!
dcat
response 3 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 9 21:15 UTC 2003

This isn't particularly news; there have been signs at checkpoints for *years*
saying that you can't joke with those people, they have to take everything
seriously, and do.

The pilot really should know better; while 11 years would be ridiculous, he
should at least be sanctioned by his airline.
cross
response 4 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 9 22:06 UTC 2003

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jmsaul
response 5 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 9 23:47 UTC 2003

And fired, unless they've got a great union.
twenex
response 6 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 00:05 UTC 2003

<INCREDULOUS>
They have signs saying "Please do not joke about bombs on airplanes"?

Honestly, how dumb can people get?
</INCREDULOUS>

Perhaps stupid people should be shot and/or sterilised.
remmers
response 7 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 02:35 UTC 2003

The airlines were taking bomb jokes just as seriously 30 years ago.
gelinas
response 8 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 05:00 UTC 2003

Actually, the signs say something closer to, "Jokes will be prosecuted as
threats;" no 'please' to it.

And yes, the signs have been up a long time.
sj2
response 9 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 05:06 UTC 2003

Hmmm .... yeah, but there has to be a quick background check? 

Like, Ohh!!, Joe's been flying crafts for the last 20 years with us, 
why would he blow up a craft. Anyways, lets check his boots .... no 
bomb .... DON'T JOKE AGAIN WITH US YOU TWIT... there you go. OVER!! 

It can't be that simple?
bru
response 10 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 12:33 UTC 2003

No.  Remember the pilot a few years ago who flew his plane into the atlantic?
jmsaul
response 11 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 13:49 UTC 2003

The pilots who do stuff like that don't joke about it at security checkpoints
beforehand.  They hide it, and in the case of the Egypt Air pilot you're
alluding to, he hid it so well that Egypt Air still denies the possibility.
bru
response 12 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 14:43 UTC 2003

point is, he probably will have absolutely nothing happen to him.  But they
could not take a chance. If you tell me on the border you are smuggling, the
odds are you are going to end up in secondary while we search your vehicle.
If they didn't respond, or if we didn't respond, and something did happen,
who the hell do you think they would blame?

sj2
response 13 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 14:48 UTC 2003

Yes, all I am saying is why couldn't they just frisk him and let him go 
later?? Why the court and stuff like that? Infact, they should frisk 
(including footwear) everyone irrespective of whether you claim 
carrying bombs or not.
janc
response 14 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 15:35 UTC 2003

Why would a pilot have bombs in his shoes?  A pilot should be able to crash
a plane quite handily without the trouble and expense of a bomb.
scott
response 15 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 17:17 UTC 2003

The current screening rules do not appear to be based on common sense, though.
jmsaul
response 16 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 17:23 UTC 2003

Re #12:  I agree that the guy needed to be searched, and miss his flight.
         You make a comment like that at an airport checkpoint, you deserve
         a cavity search.  You make a comment like that at the border, you
         shouldn't be surprised if your car gets vacuumed while you sit for
         a few hours.

         I'm disagreeing with the idea that the guy needs to go to jail for
         seven years (the 11-year figure is inaccurate, but 7 is still nuts).
sj2
response 17 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 18:41 UTC 2003

Here is what they should do at the airport. 

Require everyone to take off clothes and footwear excluding 
undergarments ;-) Hold all this stuff in your hands and stand in a 
queue. When your turn comes handover your clothes/footwear to a 
security officer who checks them while a second guy frisks you. :))

Neat, Eh?

If you still get bombed/hijacked start doing dental and anal checks 
too. :D
slynne
response 18 of 23: Mark Unseen   Aug 10 20:28 UTC 2003

Yeah, but if you started doing that, people would start going through 
security just for the fun of doing a strip tease followed by an anal 
exam. 
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