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walkman
The censorship item Mark Unseen   Jul 1 12:11 UTC 2020

The same people behind "peaceful" riots, arson, violence and murder are
now pressuring corporations to pull ads from facebook until "hate" is
censored.

Facebook will ultimately capitulate, just like the corporations.

What will the end result be? What is "hate"?

We can look to our Silicone Valley overlords to tell us. 
Time after time, conservative political speech is labeled hate. 
Anything that disagrees with the narrative.

Say there are two genders? HATE.
Say that you agree with border controls? HATE.
When POTUS said he would send military to stop riots, it was labeled by
Twitter as "hate". There are many examples.

Don't get me wrong, actual hate speech should be shunned and discouraged
but holding one political view set as sacred while labeling all others
"hate speech" is the dangerous and irresponsible in a supposedly free
society. 

Where do you think this will end? Will Facebook start broad-brushing
speech and labeling users using their AI as "hate"?

There's evidence that conservative speech is being pushed into a ghetto.
If they stay on Twitter/Facebook, their speech is shadow banned; visible
only to the user posting - or relegated to other hidden status. Users
are hidden, deplatformed, labeled and systematically 'unfriended' from
others.  People are flocking to Telegram, Gab, and Parler.  Predictably,
those services once trending are quickly labeled as a haven for racism
and hate speech and the PC lynch mob demands the apps are taken down
from Apple and Google app stores. 

In the meantime the wall of PC mainstream media groupthink starts to
repeat the familiar 2+2=5 untruths. "There's no such thing as Antifa."
"Social media is not censoring and silencing conservatives. That's been
debunked." etc.

SEE:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-antifa-threat-is-total-bullshitand-t
otally-dangerous

SEE ALSO:
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/is-facebook-censoring-conservative-news
/ 

Do you also think that people can win elections with these tactics?
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-ads-boycott-idUSKBN2424GS
Facebook frustrates advertisers as boycott over hate speech kicks off

Sheila Dang
5-6 minutes

NEW YORK/SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Advertisements for more than 400
brands including Coca-Cola and Starbucks are due to vanish from Facebook
on Wednesday, after the failure of last-ditch talks to stop a boycott
over hate speech on the site.

U.S. civil rights groups have enlisted the multinationals to help
pressure the social media giant into taking concrete steps to block hate
speech in the wake of the death of George Floyd and amid a national
reckoning over racism..

Facebook executives including Carolyn Everson, vice president of global
business solutions, and Neil Potts, public policy director, held at
least two meetings with advertisers on Tuesday, the eve of the planned
one-month boycott, three sources who participated in the calls told
Reuters.

But the executives offered no new details on how they would tackle hate
speech, the sources said. Instead, they pointed back to recent press
releases, frustrating advertisers on the calls who believe those plans
do not go far enough.

 It s simply not moving,  said one executive at a major ad agency of the
conversations.

Facebook Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg has agreed to meet with the
organizers of the boycott, a spokeswoman said late Tuesday.

U.S. civil rights groups including the Anti-Defamation League, NAACP and
Color of Change started the  Stop Hate for Profit  campaign after the
death of Floyd, a Black man who died under the knee of a white police
officer last month.

The groups outlined 10 demands for Facebook including allowing people
who experience severe harassment to speak with a Facebook employee and
giving refunds to brands whose ads show up next to offensive content
that is later removed.

Facebook said earlier this week it would submit to an audit of its hate
speech controls, adding to plans to label newsworthy content that would
otherwise violate its policies, following similar practices at other
social media platforms such as Twitter Inc.

One digital ad agency representative who participated in a call on
Tuesday said Facebook executives referred repeatedly to the audit,
without offering additional concessions.

Facebook executives have reached out to chief executives, board members
and chief marketing officers of major advertisers to talk them out of
the boycott, two people briefed on the discussions told Reuters. All the
sources requested anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on
the record. ADVERTISING TEST

The boycott will be a test for advertisers on how to reach billions of
consumers without relying on the largest social media platform in the
world, an executive at a major ad agency said.

Companies that run ads in order to promote their brand image rather than
to make direct sales are less beholden to Facebook. Many of these,
including the multinational advertisers who have joined up with the
boycott, will begin to plot how they can achieve the same goals without
Facebook, the executive said.

For Facebook, the boycott is unlikely to have a big financial impact.
The top 100 brands on Facebook in 2019 likely brought in only 6% of
Facebook s total $70 billion in annual revenue, according to a
Morningstar research note citing Pathmatics data, which measures most
types of advertising on the platform. Facebook said last year its top
100 advertisers accountED for less than 20% of total ad revenue.

News of the boycott wiped away $56 billion from Facebook s market
capitalization after an 8% drop in its stock on Friday. But shares
recovered 3% on Tuesday and are actually trading 8% higher year to date.
ZUCKBERG PRESENCE

Facebook Chief Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg last week asked to meet
with the campaign organizers along with Chief Product Officer Chris Cox,
Zuckerberg s long-time friend, who returned to Facebook this month after
resigning over the company s direction last year. 
111 responses total.
papa
response 1 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 1 23:16 UTC 2020

"Hate speech" is the most-abused term in English today, especially
because there are so many otherwise reasonable people who
unquestioningly accept the validity of its application and the
justness of proposed sanctions.

That said, I feel schadenfreude to see progressive-biased social media
services hoist by their own petard and censor themselves into
increasing irrelevance.
walkman
response 2 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 00:21 UTC 2020

Agreed.
Now, what can we do to fight being labeled and attacked by giant
corporations, NGOs, George Soros, hollywood, news media, the Deep State
and half of American voters?

Are most conservatives too cozy to get angry enough to start their own
demonstrations? To exercise power? Or do they just cower and complain?
papa
response 3 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 06:19 UTC 2020

resp:2
I think most conservatives are putting their bets on weathering the storm and
rebuilding after the stinking mess completes its collapse. We are Wile E.
Coyote watching between our feet as the valley floor rushes up to meet us.
walkman
response 4 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 23:11 UTC 2020

After receiving a $150 million investment from the Chinese Communist 
government, reddit has banned over 2000 communities. 

Guess who they targeted?

When will people rise up? Vote with their dollars?

#3 Its not enough imo. I'm certain the election will be rigged this 
time. All bets are off and these people are desperate enough. 
papa
response 5 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 2 23:19 UTC 2020

resp:4
One comfort is that "these people" are the ones who got Hillary Clinton
elected president.
tod
response 6 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 5 13:33 UTC 2020

re #4
 When will people rise up? Vote with their dollars?

Aren't they?  
walkman
response 7 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 10 16:46 UTC 2020

#5 Hillary is POTUS and I'm just finding out?

#6 Some people are throwing hissy fits and others are just complaining 
about it. No one is rising up and all dollars seem to be going to taxes 
and China. 

Wait until people see what happens when the Fed stops QE.
There are so many ways to "defeat Trump" but they all involve destroying
 the economy and putting many of us out of work.

The people with armed guards that live in gated communities want us to 
live without law enforcement and stay in our homes.

Celebrities always know what's best. Maybe we can all get a guaranteed 
income from the loving government. A pair of Air Jordans on every table.
tod
response 8 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 11 18:26 UTC 2020

NYSE:
RGR
VSTO
OLN

Buy low, Sell High

I wish I was being smug but this is also a real things.  
RGR (Ruger) in Sep 2019 was $40.62 - today it's $76+
Vista Outdoor (VSTO) in Sep 2019 was $4.41 - today it's $14.66
Olin Corp (OLN) in Sep 2019 was $21.35 - today it's $11.13

Ok, so what happened to Olin? They make ammo and chlorine so you'd think
with COVID and Preppers they'd be making bank - nope.  Supplies were
affected by Canadian rail strikes by Teamsters.  Guess how Teamsters
do their voting?  It isn't at a booth.
Also throw in the crazy soviet republic of California which makes ammo
purchasing a hassle with triplicate forms and electronic surveillance.
You can't walk into Big 5 and buy a box...you have to do tons of 
paperwork and wait around for big brother on a terminal (State Gov) to
approve.  It's easier to adopt a baby - but they're not as accurate 
coming out of the t-shirt cannon.
OLN is screwed by the anti 2nd Amendment commies - China rubs its military
hands together and grins.
tod
response 9 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 15 21:48 UTC 2020

Today
RGR (Ruger) is $78.20..up from $40.62 in Sep19
VSTO (Vista Outdoor) is $14.63
OLN is $12.  Today, they changed CEO's. The new guy? He's from Prince
International. Who is Prince? They're owned by Palladium Equity Partners.
Palladium isn't that well known on the surface but lemme give you a hint
about this...they own Wise Foods (think MRE's and military)
So yea...GE and Friends of American Revolution thank you for your patronage.
Biden, Ukraine, and U.S. war planners want an obedient client states 
that will house major U.S. military bases, right at the heart of the worlds 
major energy reserves.  Biden and his $2T 100% Green Deal up next...

walkman
response 10 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 16 12:56 UTC 2020

Today while brushing my teeth what ran through my head was that 
after all of my life experience, studying business and looking at 
the world around me, the one thing that ties everything together is 
the basic tenants of capitalism: supply and demand, leverage, 
capital, finite resources, ideas/innovation.

Marxism is a lie.
They lure useful idiots with utopia and deliver a nightmare. 
The promise free things and take everything you have. 

Capitalism isn't something we can argue. It's a natural force.
It's jungle law.
Nowhere in the natural world in evolution, the animal kingdom or 
human civilization can anyone escape from supply and demand, 
leverage, capital, finite resources, ideas/innovation.

There are finite resources in the jungle. There is even a supply 
chain. Seeds fall from trees. Some are eaten, providing nutrients. 
Some propagate more trees. If there are too many seeds, something 
will balance this out. Everything in nature operates this way. If 
there's a too high of a demand for something, there is scarcity. 
This scarcity informs the jungle "market". The outcome determines 
who can survive and thrive. Just like in human capitalism. If a 
species adapts to a scenario to game the system, it dominates. 
Innovation. Adaptation. 

Even socialism, communism, monarchies, etc. can't get away from it. 
There is always a demand for goods and services. The supply chain 
tends to it. Scarcity determines value. No one can escape!

Promises of free food, water, education, medicine, cable TV etc. are 
all bogus. Someone has to cut the tree, kill the cow, run the power 
cables, serve the coffee. Basement dwellers won't be reclining in 
sofas with game controllers while being fed hot pockets. That's the 
promise. The reality is that under government control, no one owns 
the sofa. No one gets fed. Everyone is dependent. Everyone lives a 
life of futility. 

I know I'm preaching to the choir. I'm just pointing out the 
inevitability of capitalism and the futility of the promises/lies of 
snake charmers. And I'm also asking rhetorically why people aren't 
being told these things and why people continue to fall for the 
lies.
tod
response 11 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 20 12:57 UTC 2020

"Free stuff"
Hansel & Gretel
BLM and Social Justice are the bread crumbs left by the abandoned and lost
children as their parents leave those kids to fend for themselves in
the CHOP forest.  Those TikTok PS4 kids need too much - mostly time
and relevance from adoring adult figures.
Enter the witch with confectionary house of socialist promises.
Who's on the menu?
Famine, birth control, war, brutality, salt & pepper.

walkman
response 12 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 14:27 UTC 2020

Don't forget that any kid that doesn't fit in can waltz into any 
Planned Parenthood and have their junk chopped. They walk out with 
hormone meds. No doctor or shrink in the process. 

It is not ironic or coincidental that Planned Parenthood is using 
brute-force methods to remove reproductive capabilities. 

This is 100% part of the overall agenda.

"TikTok PS4 kids" - I like that. 
Purple hair, skinny jeans, tattoos, daddy/mommy issues, perpetual 
adolescence, inept not-a-man soyboys with facial hair and skull 
masks hitting anyone they disagree with using a hammer from dad's 
garage.
tod
response 13 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 22:45 UTC 2020

Free Junk Removal is my punk band
Hammer from Dad's Garage is the album
7-11 Lipstick is the new hit single
See where this is going?
walkman
response 14 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 23:01 UTC 2020

*walkman is now in a fetal position, shaking*
tod
response 15 of 111: Mark Unseen   Jul 22 16:58 UTC 2020

Where does the Epstein mystery machine distraction take everyone?
Is it a chocolate bunny for Clinton or Trump?
Do we really care that much about one of the movers and shakers of the 80's
who got caught being a pig like a majority of CEOs with too much time
and money and bountiful perversion?  In the big picture of a government
which has stopped applying lawful order and moral obligation to its
citizens?
How about the foreign affairs of the day? WHere is the news and outrage?
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