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denise
Feb 2010 Board Meeting Minutes Mark Unseen   Feb 9 21:18 UTC 2010

Grex Board Meeting, 2/7/10

Present: gelinas*, aruba, kentn*, keesan, jim, steve*, tsty*, unicorn 
[by phone]*, denise*
[* = board members; board member cross missing]

7:58 pm, meeting called to order.

-- Officer election results:
    Chair [president]: kentn
    Treasurer: tsty
    Secretary: denise

--Staff report:
    STeve summarized the hardware problems we had [he posted a summary 
in, I believe, item 4 in agora].  
     Backups were discussed, doing remote backups for now, then in a 
month or so, try doing a usb backup.
    Discussed adding members to staff. gelinas moved to add tsty and 
remmers to staff [with root access], denise seconded, motion passed.  
Staff would like to meet with tonster to get more info before adding him
 to staff.

--Next Meeting: Sunday, March 7, 6pm at Zingerman s

--Grex status and future:

    What is/should be our policy of disseminating info from taped 
meetings?  Should discuss in co-op. tsty moved and gelinas seconded: All
 grex meetings recorded for board members to use and to provide mp3
files  to be available if needed for other use/dissemination, subject to
board  approval. Motion passed.

   What has happened to the old grex equipment? Steve and mdw have most 
of it; keesan has recycled some of the old equipment.  Current Inventory
 includes:
   -I386 Box
   -external usb disk
   -spare motherboard
   -2 modems
   -gavel? [Slynne, do you still have this?]
   -speaker phone
   -treasurer s records
   -domain name

   The board has received email from srw [steve weiss] stating that veek
   
has been in touch to see about using srw s photos he has to use in a 
wikipedia article about grex. Does the board agree with this? There were
 no objections; go for it!

   
   Where to communicate when Grex is down?  Possibilities:
     -Posterous [sp?]
     -M-net: people can post info on mnet but mnet will not be the 
[only] place for staff to discuss info. 
     -twitter/facebook/myspace: looking into setting up accounts on one 
or more of these.
     -HVCN -doesn t work
     -Check google page

   Email question/item in coop posted by veek about the possibility of 
using postfix/
white listing. Will be discussed in veek s item as well as with staff.

   What about having personalized web domains? Will look into this, can 
also discuss online. What can we do without having to involve 
provide.net?

9:45 pm, gelinas moved to adjourn meeting, Steve seconded; motion 
carried.



    

66 responses total.
tsty
response 1 of 66: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 01:24 UTC 2010

  
w0w .. fasssssssssst and good! tnx
  
mary
response 2 of 66: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 01:40 UTC 2010

Could someone please clarify the bit about opening up board meetings by 
both simulcasting and keeping those audio/video recordings available for 
folks to listen/watch at their convenience?  The coop discussion seemed to 
support doing this.  Yet the minutes are fuzzy as to what came down.  

What's up?
cross
response 3 of 66: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 02:23 UTC 2010

Could someone please clarify the staff issues?  My understanding was that
Remmers and TS do Not have root access.
veek
response 4 of 66: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 12:45 UTC 2010

Re #0: so SRW didn't forget :) Regarding the personalized web URL 
thing.. it could be done by creating a subdomain called 
xyz.cyberspace.org and delegating authority for the subdomain to a 
nameserver run on grex.cyberspace.org, so any further changes would be 
local BUT this would require that staff do the initial one-time 
delegation on Provide. 

BUT, I'm thinking that perhaps this could wait till later - the actual 
benefits being, rather marginal..

Anyway, so could we decide something for sure (even migrating to 
tonster's box is okay with me) regarding Mail, MySQL and Ping/
Traceroute/NMap (i'll open a thread on this). All are very useful for 
ppl using the shell.
tsty
response 5 of 66: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 16:11 UTC 2010

  
one amplificatoin about he hardware inventory ... apparently the
board-at-the-time was wholly disinteresdsted in keeping arond (or
offering to return) anyhtiikg that was not activly in-use.
  
keesan said she recycled a lot of it ... mdw & steve captured some that
was going to head to teh shredder .. and some hit the shredder.
  
i think i have that right .. at least close.
  
re 3 ... dunno about remmers but i don;t ahve root at this second, but
it should be coming along some time soon. 
  
re 4 .. teh   xyz.cyberspace.org  was brought up sted *.org/~xyz for
persoanl sites and the board (between meeings) is considering how
to best effect the idea whilst -also- benefiting grex, i.e., some $$$.
  
remmers
response 6 of 66: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 21:46 UTC 2010

I'm of the opinion that root access should be parceled out conserva-
tively on an as-needed basis.  In particular, since I don't know
exactly what I'll be doing as staff yet, I don't know if I need it.
Certain kinds of administrative tasks can be carried out without
root - for example, I didn't need it to run the recent board vote;
just needed privileged access to certain directories and files.
If I'm going to be authorized to go to Provide and hit reset,
I don't need root for that either.  On the other hand, if I'm
going to fight fires such as runaway processes and the like, then
I'd need root.

I think staff needs to get together, either in person or online,
and figure out who's going to do what.  Then I'll know if I
actually need root.

At the December board meeting, a staff meeting was scheduled
for early January.  It didn't happen because Grex was still down
with disk problems.  I think it's time to schedule another one.
If it's an in-person meeting, I'm out of town at the moment but
will be available from February 21 on.
nharmon
response 7 of 66: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 00:55 UTC 2010

I'm surprised the root password isn't sealed by the board in a
tamper-evident envelope with staff just given least privileges via sudo,
with a couple of staffers having root-level sudo.
kentn
response 8 of 66: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 01:26 UTC 2010

It's more likely in a hermetically sealed mayonnaise jar under
Funk and Wagnalls' porch.
nharmon
response 9 of 66: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 01:47 UTC 2010

*snort*
tonster
response 10 of 66: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 05:51 UTC 2010

resp:7: that's how ford used to keep their root passwords sealed.
nharmon
response 11 of 66: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 09:58 UTC 2010

It's also the recommended safe practice for financial institutions.
kentn
response 12 of 66: Mark Unseen   Feb 12 13:16 UTC 2010

That doesn't sound like all that bad an idea, actually.  
jgelinas
response 13 of 66: Mark Unseen   Feb 13 18:34 UTC 2010

The board approved root access for both tsty and remmers.  When either
will get that access is, I guess, up to the staff.

Most of the stuff is done by sudo now, I think.  Note that sudo just
makes more passwords lucrative targets.

There is still some disagreement on broadcasting the board meetings. 
Thus the limits on recording and disseminating the recordings.  We are
probably going to have to take membership-level action to get it
'right.'
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